[vescret]

hmm the lalala doesn't really add or take away from the song to me.... i enjoy that song when i listen to it but oh well....

[KLUDE]

Pomp & Circumstance is my favorite post 2000 SP Song buy a country mile!

I can't work out the dislike for it, In my iTunes it has a higher play count than Disarm & Today ...

[vescret]

someone actually likes the song! a miracle!

[ItsSoPringles]

vescret, on 09 June 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

someone actually likes the song! a miracle!

that makes 3 of us.....and probably only 3 of us

[vescret]

that makes us an exclusive club.

[ItsSoPringles]

vescret, on 09 June 2012 - 06:19 PM, said:

that makes us an exclusive club.

fight club?

[Elphenor]

ItsSoPringles, on 09 June 2012 - 06:26 PM, said:

fight club?

You're ignoring the number 1 rule about fight club

[vescret]

ItsSoPringles, on 09 June 2012 - 06:26 PM, said:

fight club?

idiot you are not supposed to talk about it!

[.absof.]

vescret, on 09 June 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

idiot you are not supposed to talk about it!

Gold!

[ItsSoPringles]

fight club whats that, FIT club is what i meant to say, we get to work out through......circumstances

[vescret]

you people didnt here or see a thing! got it?!

[Simon]

vescret, on 09 June 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

you people didnt here or see a thing! got it?!

I fixed it for you. Very secretive now. :o/>

[vescret]

why thank you kind sir! for second i thought i was gonna have to ki...i mean talk to some people if you know what i mean.

[ItsSoPringles]

vescret, on 09 June 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

you people didnt here or see a thing! got it?!

that has got to be the best god damn thing ive ever seen on this forum

[vescret]

ItsSoPringles, on 09 June 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

that has got to be the best god damn thing ive ever seen on this forum

hey hey hey quiet this is all your fault

[ae37jr]

ItsSoPringles, on 09 June 2012 - 05:53 PM, said:

i guess its the la la la's that kill it for people, yah they dont sound the best and it'd be better without them but i still think its a....dare i say it....its a beautiful sounding song and i remember getting goosebumps the first time i heard that guitar rip in at the end, its also the only time i truly thing billy's vocals actually sounded good on the entire album. i can understand people disliking it but its treated as one of the absolute worst billy has done even by zeitgeist defenders which is what i dont understand

im legitimately asking here for people that hate this song, whats the problem with it outside the la la la's

I've always liked P&C. It's got that beautiful-sadness adore type feel to it and killer guitar wankery ala The Last Song to close it out. It's definitely not a song I'd rock out in my car to or use to introduce new fans. But i consider it to be a worthy piece for the SP catalog.

[Elphenor]

P&C is an atrocity...

[vescret]

you ae(whatever your name is)my friend....are now in. congrats

[ItsSoPringles]

Elphenor, on 09 June 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

P&C is an atrocity...

again i ask, how? whats so bad about it? legit question but no one answers it

[vescret]

ItsSoPringles, on 09 June 2012 - 07:20 PM, said:

again i ask, how? whats so bad about it? legit question but no one answers it

pringles..we can never understand......it.....just is

[ItsSoPringles]

FFS can someone who hates the song seriously answer me, like everyone here hates it why wont anyone actually back it up

[Burma8]

I really like "P&C" but then I'm one of the few Zeitgeist lovers on here. Also one of the few WWMM lovers on here. Damn I love those songs.

[vescret]

Burma8, on 09 June 2012 - 07:45 PM, said:

I really like "P&C" but then I'm one of the few Zeitgeist lovers on here. Also one of the few WWMM lovers on here. Damn I love those songs.

holy god of lucky charms! another one likes the song! thats like 400 people now

Widow for me is a decent song to me. I have to be in real high spirits to enjoy it to the max.

[standing]

Simon, on 09 June 2012 - 07:01 PM, said:

I fixed it for you. Very secretive now. :o/>

I cant highlight to read s.ame-colored txt on my kindle. someone wanna tell me what all was said? I like pomp too, so I can be on the secret club.

[vescret]

standing, on 09 June 2012 - 08:15 PM, said:

I cant highlight to read s.ame-colored txt on my kindle. someone wanna tell me what all was said? I like pomp too, so I can be on the secret club.

you like pomp huh? well welcome aboard!

[chadbrochillington]

vescret, on 09 June 2012 - 08:17 PM, said:

you like pomp huh? well welcome aboard!

Pomp and Circumstances is a great little piece of melody and emotion. It was instantly one of my favorites on my first listen through Zeitgeist, and remains as such. I imagine certain listeners just have a problem with the "la la la" hook... but *shrug*, feels good man.

[vescret]

chadbrochillington, on 09 June 2012 - 10:23 PM, said:

Pomp and Circumstances is a great little piece of melody and emotion. It was instantly one of my favorites on my first listen through Zeitgeist, and remains as such. I imagine certain listeners just have a problem with the "la la la" hook... but *shrug*, feels good man.

oh so uhh you lookin to join the crew?

[agent_cooper]

Oops. thought i'd clicked the thread called 'Oceania' but i landed in the darkest corners of the boards: a pomp+circumstance appreciation thread!

[nasalscarecrow]

*raises hand* I also really like Pomp and Circumstance. Great ending to the album. Good backing guitars and a euphoric tune.

*back on topic* IMMA WUV OCEANIA!

[whywontyoulisten]

ItsSoPringles, on 09 June 2012 - 05:53 PM, said:

...i remember getting goosebumps the first time i heard that guitar rip in at the end...

I just listened P&C, simply because I couldn't remember what you were referring to, and I have to admit: the soloing at the end is great; it reminds me a little of the end of Untitled. However, I think that just highlights a problem with Pumpkins songs of this era:

My favourite songs on Zeitgeist are Stellar and Ma Belle, but I have to admit that's only really because, at 03.27 and 02.37 respectively, something interesting happens to drag each song out of mediocrity, and hint at the Corgan magic that used to be so prevalent. I could quite happily listen to those two isolated sections without the rest of the songs, and not miss anything. The clean vocals on Stellar are really quite painful to listen to, and the rest of the song is little more than sub-TFE noodling. Ma Belle is a pretty generic rock song, but it has that euphoric release; it's a pity that everything else is forgettable, and only exists only to build up to it.

[agent_cooper]

del

[eyeboogers]

agent_cooper, on 10 June 2012 - 02:42 AM, said:

Ma Belle is in my top 3 worst pumpkins songs ever. That being said, where the announcement about the premiere already? only 2 days to go ... !

Even the climax of Ma Belle is not enough to safe the awfulness of that song for me.

Any announcement of the announcement of the unofficial official premiere in two days already??

Coop, it was already made. Streaming from iTunes on tuesday. Personally i was hoping for that multimedia experience Corgan talked about a while back (i assumed they were going to edit something together using all of the "imagine oceania" submissions or something like that).

[agent_cooper]

eyeboogers, on 10 June 2012 - 02:43 AM, said:

Coop, it was already made. Streaming from iTunes on tuesday. Personally i was hoping for that multimedia experience Corgan talked about a while back (i assumed they were going to edit something together using all of the "imagine oceania" submissions or something like that).

thanks eyeboogs, I thought the itunes stream wasn't confirmed yet... kind of sucks cause my itunes always crashes on my laptop...
as for the oceania-experience, guess we'll have to wait for the tour

[standing]

man, I don't have a computer. and I don't think itunes will go on my kindle fire.

[Parksey]

Oceania should have been an instrumental album IMO.

[gyang333]

agent_cooper, on 10 June 2012 - 02:46 AM, said:

thanks eyeboogs, I thought the itunes stream wasn't confirmed yet... kind of sucks cause my itunes always crashes on my laptop...
as for the oceania-experience, guess we'll have to wait for the tour

Yeah did someone drop the ball on this one? I don't think its been said anywhere except Hipsters United and Crestfallen that its going to stream on iTunes. Even the website of the radio show where Billy announced it doesn't include the iTunes information, only if you listen to the segment of when Billy is on do you hear about it.

[agent_cooper]

standing, on 10 June 2012 - 03:19 AM, said:

man, I don't have a computer. and I don't think itunes will go on my fire.

ah... the good old days of hunting rabbit and gathering berries

[ItsSoPringles]

agent_cooper, on 09 June 2012 - 11:50 PM, said:

Oops. thought i'd clicked the thread called 'Oceania' but i landed in the darkest corners of the boards: a pomp+circumstance appreciation thread!

i see your still avoiding the question but whatever i at least technically got a reply, even if he was talking more about stellar and ma belle than anything

Parksey, on 10 June 2012 - 03:45 AM, said:

Oceania should have been an instrumental album IMO.

the vocals sound good on a few songs though, one diamond in particular would be pretty meh without them(based off samples), celestials i think sounds great with the vocals, so does most of the album really, its just wildflower where the vocals kill it, and quasar is shit regardless of vocals or not, thats just a horrendous song

[agent_cooper]

ItsSoPringles, on 10 June 2012 - 06:18 AM, said:

i see your still avoiding the question but whatever i at least technically got a reply, even if he was talking more about stellar and ma belle than anything

What are you talking about, Pringles? Shoot and I'll happily enlighten you with a wise answer, please repeat your Q don't feel like crawling back ten pages.
Q&A with agent_cooper now online!

[ItsSoPringles]

agent_cooper, on 10 June 2012 - 06:22 AM, said:

What are you talking about, Pringles? Shoot and I'll happily enlighten you with a wise answer, please repeat your Q don't feel like crawling back ten pages.
Q&A with agent_cooper now online!

this is the 3rd damn time ive asked, what is wrong with pomp, like a actually answer is all i ask but each time you just go "ewww pomp"

[agent_cooper]

ItsSoPringles, on 10 June 2012 - 06:37 AM, said:

this is the 3rd damn time ive asked, what is wrong with pomp, like a actually answer is all i ask but each time you just go "ewww pomp"

that's the first time I commented Pomp I think, maybe you confuse me with another poster. If I criticized P+C before in this fashion than i was just horsing around. Honestly, to me it's an ok song, i certainly don't mind the la-la-la's as much as i do in Tom Tom e.g., and the sound is a fine ethereal soundscape, a bit too new age for me, i prefer my shoegaze a bit more profound. But still a fine song, just not too memorable compared with other pumpkins songs it falls a bit flat.

but better ask a real p+c hater, cause hey i'm not the zeitgeist hater here, i'm the teargarden hater!

Is that the answer you wanted?

you're welcome
-Coop

[Lenders Michl]

AS long as the music is good i don´t give a hazelnut about the cover , the photo, billy´s dress or whatever.

Zeitgeist might not be a good album and teargarden so far also not, but i´m sure that oceania has its moments , will grow and will be floating in our heads and make many fans happy again! :cheers:/>

[pda]

Simon, on 09 June 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

Just so you guys don't freak out on us, we'll be locking this thread when the album is first made available in full (whether by stream or leak).
This thread will eventually be archived along with other noteworthy threads from the history of this forum.
A new thread will be started with whoever first posts about the album. :cheers:/>

That´s really stupid. What´s the problem with this thread? Why locking it?

[Elphenor]

Anyone who can make it past the "la la la's" in pomp without gagging uncontrollably deserves an ultimate fan medal.