[dlambert]

Anyone know what the deal is with the GA at the Milwaukee show? I purchased my ticket during the presale and there was no GA option even though the seating chart showed a GA pit area. Then I saw this in Sept.:

http://twitter.com/#...143210893156352

Now there is a GA pit option for tickets on the event page. I've been to other shows with seating setup like this and the pit was open to anyone. I'm wondering if this will be the case for this show or will you need a GA ticket to get up there?

[kornpaulfrank]

I saw that too and had already bought balcony tickets in the pre-sale. By the time we decided to get the pit tickets they were gone. The seating chart has completely changed since the pre-sale. Even today you can get 2nd row tickets on the main floor due to the extension of the pit. What the heck did I get at the pre-sale? I feel somewhat robbed.

So yeah, you need a GA ticket for the pit now.

[dlambert]

I emailed the venue right after I posted this the other day. At that time there were still GA tickets available. By the time I heard back from them the next day they were all gone. I would have begrudgingly purchased another ticket but that's not an option now. There's a bunch on StubHub for less than face (if you include fees and taxes) but they're all selling in pairs, and since I'm going alone I don't want to eat 2 tickets. Argh!!

[scottytheoneandonly]

I bought during the presale and also got tickets far back in the theater. Looking online today they have tickets in the 3rd row available! ugh.

how are they going to keep people seated on the floor from simply walking up into the GA floor area? do they put up a wall?

can't believe this isn't sold out. Chicago sold out in under an hour.

[dlambert]

Looks like there are GA/pit tickets available again on Tickets.com.

[bosmanad]

Turns out I'm going to the Milwaukee show tonight. I'll report back here tomorrow w/ setlist and review. Anyone else going?

Any tips on when you think they may take the stage? I've got a 6 hour drive, and want to gauge the departure time. Hoping they play the full/regular setlist over the shorter Omaha one.

[mrgdouglas]

Hey there. I am new to the forum. I am going to the show tonight. I love the Riverside Theatre. I saw Tori Amos there a couple years back. I have GA tickets. My boyfriend is going with me. Doors open at 6..just curious when The pumpkins will take the stage seeing that there's 2 openers. I wonder how long the openers will play...I live about 2 hours away so will be leaving around 2:30 this afternoon. I am super excited seeing that it's my first Pumpkin show!!!!!

If anyone wants to say hello. I have black framed glasses and will have jeans on and an orange hoody on with most likely just a brown shirt...

[bosmanad]

mrgdouglas, on 13 October 2011 - 06:12 AM, said:

Hey there. I am new to the forum. I am going to the show tonight. I love the Riverside Theatre. I saw Tori Amos there a couple years back. I have GA tickets. My boyfriend is going with me. Doors open at 6..just curious when The pumpkins will take the stage seeing that there's 2 openers. I wonder how long the openers will play...I live about 2 hours away so will be leaving around 2:30 this afternoon. I am super excited seeing that it's my first Pumpkin show!!!!!

If anyone wants to say hello. I have black framed glasses and will have jeans on and an orange hoody on with most likely just a brown shirt...

Hey, mrdouglas, welcome to the forum. I'll be up on the balcony (bad back leads to needing a seat). I'll be the tall skinny white guy. Since everyone there will look the same, I assume I won't see you, but I plan on wearing a yellow 'Grinderman' t shirt with a heathen child troll doll on it. Say hello if you see me. Not sure what time they'll take the stage, but I'm kind of assuming it will be 9pm to 11pm show. I've got the 6 hr drive, so hoping to leave w/ plenty of time to get there and find the venue. Not sure if I'll make the meet & great for SPRC. Can't wait!!

[dlambert]

I'll be there for sure! Broke down and bought a GA ticket so I'm heading out the door shortly. I'll be the blonde haired guy with the crazy mustache :)/>

[mrgdouglas]

Yeah a lot of people will look the same...dark clothing probably? hahahahha. Will be getting there about 5pm or a little before..I don't feel like waiting forever to get in. I have GS tickets so hopefully will still get good seats...

[mrgdouglas]

sldkfhjl;sjdlfkjsd im getting more and more excited for tonight!!!!

what i meant in the last post is that i have 2 GA tickets.... :jackyl:/>

[chrisothoulos]

I heard they have been going on around 8:45

[mrgdouglas]

The earlier, the better!

[dlambert]

Why is it that there are still tickets available for this show, and there is no line yet? I always feel a bit crazy standing by myself in front of a theater 4+ hours before a show (thought it's a rare occasion - that I'm by myself that is). Maybe I can borrow a fluorescent yellow vest from someone.

[mrgdouglas]

If I was there right now, I would be waiting already but I live about 2 hours away and can't leave until another 45 min. or so. Should be there about 5pm or so. I can't wait to be up close and enjoying the great music!!!!

[chrisothoulos]

dlambert, on 13 October 2011 - 10:14 AM, said:

Why is it that there are still tickets available for this show, and there is no line yet? I always feel a bit crazy standing by myself in front of a theater 4+ hours before a show (thought it's a rare occasion - that I'm by myself that is). Maybe I can borrow a fluorescent yellow vest from someone.

Then go grab some food close by or something

[smashp1979]

Did anyone go? Did they play the longer set?

[bosmanad]

I went to the show. Review later, but in the meantime, does anybodies USB from last night not work? I have an Error 2032 message

[bootsdomino]

i went. the set was pretty much the same as the denver one on setlist.fm. maybe exactly the same. for all the talk in the thread about billy's voice, i thought he sounded really good!
didn't enjoy fancy space people at all, seemed like a joke band.
bill senior was there in the balcony, as billy pointed out, which was nice. overall, billy's attitude has become very positive. no negative words for the audience, not even any self-deprecation. and he gave a shout out to our hometown boys the frogs.
it was a strange feeling, being a milwaukeean, when the crowd started chanting "lets go brewers!" after we won last night's game. fortunately, it was only between songs and they had enough respect to stop when the band started up again.

[ItsSoPringles]

bootsdomino, on 14 October 2011 - 10:39 AM, said:

i went. the set was pretty much the same as the denver one on setlist.fm. maybe exactly the same. for all the talk in the thread about billy's voice, i thought he sounded really good!
didn't enjoy fancy space people at all, seemed like a joke band.
bill senior was there in the balcony, as billy pointed out, which was nice. overall, billy's attitude has become very positive. no negative words for the audience, not even any self-deprecation. and he gave a shout out to our hometown boys the frogs.
it was a strange feeling, being a milwaukeean, when the crowd started chanting "lets go brewers!" after we won last night's game. fortunately, it was only between songs and they had enough respect to stop when the band started up again.

billy being positive is a great thing, i guess he wasnt lying when he said he feels more respect for the crowd now

[dlambert]

The show was absolutely incredible. I'm glad I made the decision not to look at any of the previous set lists beforehand - every song was a little unexpected present! Haven't had a chance to listen to the USB stick yet. Meet a couple great people (can't remember their usernames) waiting for the SPRC meetup, and afterwards we grabbed the best spots in the house :)/> So wishing I had bought tickets for Chicago and Detroit.

[dudehitscar]

ItsSoPringles, on 14 October 2011 - 10:45 AM, said:

billy being positive is a great thing, i guess he wasnt lying when he said he feels more respect for the crowd now

wait until the album comes out.

[bootsdomino]

my friends and i had no idea you could buy the usb thing there. i take it that was at the merch table? all i knew about was the ability to buy it on the site for $25, plus the crazy shipping.
i hadn't really explored the previous setlists either at the time, so it was a surprise to learn that the other side of the kaleidyscope turned out to be pisces iscariot.

[trektheworld]

After not seeing a setlist on here posted i hunted around the 'net to find one and came across this review below. It's shitty reviews like this that give the everyday fan of the Pumpkins (or any band for that reason) a bad name. I'm sorry, but if your band has been around the block a few times...you should have caught them in concert a few times....unless you live in Billings, MT or some place most bands don't tour through. After seeing a band turn out hits off the radio over and over again....It's so nice to hear a setlist comprised of nothing but songs NOT on the radio. In fact, that was my #1 most favorite thing about the Denver show the other night...no radio hits - minus Cherub Rock and BWBW. I am so tired of hearing the songs on the radio that are iconic of bands....i go for every other song they play. If you like the band enough, you should like the more obscure stuff as well, or at least appreciate the fact that they have the skills AND balls to play that stuff. So fuck this guy and every guy in the future who puts out shit like this - only encouraging this kind of lame mentality...



<<<As a rule, bands should play their biggest hits live. It's those singles that lead most people to discover an artist, to become a fan, and so the paying concert-goer expects and deserves to hear them at the show.

The Smashing Pumpkins, playing the Riverside Theater on Thursday, just up the highway from its native Chicago, had a generous two-hour-plus set to work with.

But did Billy Corgan and company play "Today"? No way. Or "1979"? Maybe another year. Or "Tonight, Tonight"? Not this night - although given that song's orchestral backbone and the presence of only four musicians, perhaps that was the right call.

Only two songs Thursday inspired widespread singalongs: "Cherub Rock," the electric opening cut to the Pumpkins' classic 1993 album, "Siamese Dream," and, for the set closer, the huge hit "Bullet With Butterfly Wings."

Given the energy they exerted - the audience even sang the chorus, sans music, during part of "Bullet" - it was disappointing the Pumpkins didn't make more of these moments happen, particularly given the large number of classic genre-definers in the back catalog.

During the 97 minutes before "Cherub Rock," the crowd respectfully listened, even if it didn't rock out, during bruising guitar freak-outs and adventurous loud-quiet mood swings. Bassist Nicole Fiorentino, guitarist Jeff Schroeder and drummer Mike Byrne all had moments to shine, but they mostly reserved the showmanship for frontman Corgan, the band's lone original member.

While not the most engaging physical performer - Corgan's facial expressions rarely went beyond the occasional crooked smile, and at one point he even sang with his arms folded in front of his chest - that distinct, angsty, aggressive whine of his still commands in his 40s. The vocals were matched by the scintillating squeals and righteous riffing of Corgan's guitar, although flashy, free-range heroics did get repetitive.

(Perhaps Corgan was showing off for his father, who was sitting in the balcony.)

The band also played new stuff such as the pleasingly punishing "Quasar" from the upcoming album "Oceania" and wide-eyed "Owata," one of the 44 tracks released one-by-one as part of the Pumpkins' ongoing "Teargarden by Kaleidyscope" project.

But the true highlights were those two iconic hits. If more had been performed, perhaps the crowd would have been screaming the Smashing Pumpkins' name before the encore. Instead, it chanted for the Brewers.>>>>>

[bosmanad]

So the set was pretty much the same as the others. No Pinwheels, but they played My Love is Winter. I got a direct link for the USB, and the show sounds great. I was apprehensive to get it, as the sound on the balcony was pretty muddy, but the sbd turned out. Better than Vegas at least.

The band was on fire. BC seemed to be enjoying myself. Starla followed Quasar and Panopticon, and I was fuckin blown away by the solo (as was the crowd). There was a big fight on the balcony during Soma, so I missed some of that. I have the full story on the altercation if anyone is curious what happened...I was sitting right next to the people who were causing problems. In fact, I was close enough to also get pelted with beers by the angry crowd behind us. Thanks for that jerks. I wasn't part of the shit show though. Lots of drunk people leads to irrational decisions.

Crowd went most crazy during Siva and Cherub Rock in my opinion, and it seems like the most people went to the can for Obscured and Lightning Strikes (very good live). I saw a few clearly disappointed people make for the exits early (easy to tell from their expressions). Obviously the lack of Disarm and/or 1979 made for a few unhappy people. I couldn't be more fucking thrilled w/ the set list, and was glad BWBW was the only 'hit.' The leavers were few and far between.

Billy's dad was there, and gave a wave right before BWBW. Not a whole lot of banter. BC said something about the Dennis (from the Frogs?) being from Milwaukee. Nicole asked if he was here, and BC said 'we're all Dennis inside.' It was pretty funny, then it seemed like BC purposely strayed from the mic. I feel like he's trying to limit the stage banter this tour(?) So other than that and a brief talk on haven't playing the venue in 23 years, he was very humble and gracious.

If anyone wants the full set or fight story post here. I've already rambled too much.

[bootsdomino]

you're right that lightning strikes was great live. without the cheesy synth from the studio version, i hardly recognized it! so much better without that synth.
sorry to hear about the troubles in the balcony, but that sounds like typical milwaukee. it's been a drunken bro invasion at shows for awhile now. when i saw the overwhelming number of ball-capped, sandal wearing jocks at tv on the radio, my jaw hit the floor.

[JSpiwak]

I was sitting on the balcony and it sounded great for me! All in all a fantastic show, and I don't see why anybody would've left early.

[silverfuck]

I was front and center at both the Milwaukee and Chicago shows and will be be posting photos on my FB photo page: Joe Stadele Photo

Also have a few video's, including Soma at the Riverside HERE!

If I saw you at either of the shows...drop me a line! The SPRC meetup was fun and the longest of the tour so far....and an all around great, great show!

[bootsdomino]

thanks joe, i appreciate the milwaukee video!

[nosferatu]

bosmanad, on 15 October 2011 - 03:48 AM, said:

There was a big fight on the balcony during Soma, so I missed some of that. I have the full story on the altercation if anyone is curious what happened...I was sitting right next to the people who were causing problems. In fact, I was close enough to also get pelted with beers by the angry crowd behind us. Thanks for that jerks. I wasn't part of the shit show though. Lots of drunk people leads to irrational decisions.

If anyone wants the full set or fight story post here. I've already rambled too much.

Interesting take on what actually happened. I and my wife were standing and enjoying ourselves, as were some of the other people around us... and certainly the people in the rows below our own. A man rudely approached me and said, "Can you sit down? You're ruining the show" (he was seated in the 10th row of the section above ours). I responded, "No. Why don't you stand up? It's a rock show". He put his hand on my shoulder and repeated, "You're ruining the show". My wife actually thought I might know the guy for his familiarity. We continued enjoying the show.

After a few minutes we began being pelted with ice, partial beers/drinks/empty cups. We didn't turn around. We didn't cuss anyone out. We continued to enjoy the show. Another man, who was with the man who'd first approached me, walked behind us and yelled, "Sit down! You're running the show." I ignored him. He may have been walking towards security... or going to get more drinks with which to pelt us. I'm not sure. But, if these two men thought we were breaking some sort of rule/law, they could have easily approached security with their complaint. No?

Continuing on... a while later I see a hand reaching toward my wife, and see a woman yank my wife's hair from behind. My wife's head actually hit the railing behind us. I immediately turned around, and saw the first man who'd approached and his "little angel" of a wife. When I approached the guy, and asked what the h*ll their problem was, security immediately swarmed us. After a few seconds of the guy and I screaming at one another, I asked, "What the f*ck is your problem? Do you know what band you're here to see? These guys were Neo Hippies. This is supposed to be about love, *sshole". I was pointing to the guy's wife, explaining she'd just assaulted my wife, and they did nothing. I was outraged. We took all the BS for at least an hour, and my wife was attacked.

An old(er) security guard demanded we sit. It appears the guy's wife (after slinking away from the situation SHE caused) told security I got up out of my seat. And for no apparent reason, I got up out of my seat and rushed them, striking her husband. When the guard told me this I refused to sit. I pointed at all the other people standing in the venue and demanded he, first, sit them down. I asked whether there was an ordinance prohibiting standing in the venue. I asked to read a copy, if there was one. He admitted there was not, and security called for the venue manager (as I was irate). He asked me to step outside with him. I asked him to keep my wife guarded, as I did not want her accosted again.

When we stepped into the hallway the manager asked me to tell him what'd happened. It appears another (unrelated) patron saw the entire thing transpire from a distance. She told the manager her p.o.v. and he wanted to make sure my story matched what she'd already reported. When it did he asked whether it would be acceptable to move my wife and I to GA/FLR. I told him I was fine where we were, but I wanted the people who accosted my wife removed from the facility and the police phoned. He asked me not to insist on a police report, and apologetically repeated his offer to move us to GA/FLR where EVERYONE was standing and enjoying the show properly. After some time I accepted his offer... I was missing a show we'd paid good money for (and my wife was alone).

Security moved us to GA/FLR (the pit) and we filed an official report with Turner Hall/Riverside/The Pabst PR department the following day. My only regret is those CRIMINALS were not arrested.

That's the actual story.

By the way, my wife's from Europe. After many years of waiting, that was her first time seeing TSP. Did I mention what a pleasure it was to show her how we Americans rock out at shows... or get pelted/pulled/cussed at for trying as much?

Peace

[scottytheoneandonly]

Ugh. that sucks. I was at Detroit on the Floor in GA and had to put up with people punching me in the back all night.

I was sitting front and center in the balcony for Milwaukee and I didn't notice any ruckus in the Balcony. I did notice that during most of the show 99% of people in the balcony were seated. but I'd occasionally look around and I noticed that a few people were standing at their seats for pretty much the entire show. They all looked high or f-d up, so I just chucked it up to people getting really stoned before the show.

I have to ask, though, if you're seated in a balcony and virtually everyone around you is seated, why stand the entire time? do you NEED to stand during For Martha?? the people behind you can't move to another seat. You're forcing everyone to stand when they bought a ticket to sit.

[nosferatu]

scottytheoneandonly, on 06 December 2011 - 12:10 PM, said:

Ugh. that sucks. I was at Detroit on the Floor in GA and had to put up with people punching me in the back all night.

I was sitting front and center in the balcony for Milwaukee and I didn't notice any ruckus in the Balcony. I did notice that during most of the show 99% of people in the balcony were seated. but I'd occasionally look around and I noticed that a few people were standing at their seats for pretty much the entire show. They all looked high or f-d up, so I just chucked it up to people getting really stoned before the show.

I have to ask, though, if you're seated in a balcony and virtually everyone around you is seated, why stand the entire time? do you NEED to stand during For Martha?? the people behind you can't move to another seat. You're forcing everyone to stand when they bought a ticket to sit.

I'm glad it wan't noticed beyond our area, then.

We noticed people in down front balcony standing every once in a while. At one point a guy looked like he stumbled a leaned hard on the railing. His friend yanked him back (apparently, afraid he was going to go over).

In our situation, there was no one seated behind us. By this I mean, we had the railing and a landing to our backs. We were seated in the last row of our level. There was a father & son seated across from us. They stood for much of the show (until the incident). There was also a group of kids which had the same reaction to the incident. So, apparently, these people (seated in the same general area we were) didn't think it was wrong to stand. They had the good fortune of not having drunk idiots in the level (not seats) behind them. If people had been seated directly behind us, and noticed they had no intention of standing, I would have had the decency to ask whether it was okay for us to stand during faster bits.

I've been a few rock shows at The Riverside. This is the first at which people actually sat in their seats. Truth be told, had we known so many balcony patrons would be seated for the entire show, we would have purchased GA/FLR tickets from the start. Fans are just as much a part of a live show as the band you're there to see. If the fans are dead, the show ends up having a similar vibe (bands admit to feeding off the vibe of the fans). And I can't imagine Billy, as a youngster, sat through many Rock gigs.