[AlienCloak]

I only got the Gish lithograph poster...

[Lunatic]

AlienCloak, on 29 November 2011 - 04:58 PM, said:

I only got the Gish lithograph poster...

The Gish front cover or the back cover as well? I'm wondering if there's one of both the front and back cover for both albums.

Also, I wasn't expecting all this TBK EP2-like shininess when I picked them up this morning.

[thorazine]

dustrock, on 29 November 2011 - 11:50 AM, said:

I'm not necessarily loving the remastered SD; it's definitely got more "punch", but it sounds to my ears like Billy's vocals sound drier and the drums are a little muddy.

i concur

[dreamover]

did anyone listen to the siamese dream vinyl yet? something sounds really off on mine. kinda fuzzy and muffled. i have a nice setup too. very thin diamond needle. i wanna say the original sounded better. haven't spun gish yet.

[MisterSquishyHalo]

RottingApples, on 28 November 2011 - 09:03 PM, said:

If only. We've still gotta wade through Pisces and the Pre-Gish album before he'll drop us that bone. I'm already convinced I will lose all bodily functions if/when the Aeroplane vinyl box set comes out.

Pre Gish Album? Link?

[Mayfair]

dreamover, on 29 November 2011 - 08:59 PM, said:

did anyone listen to the siamese dream vinyl yet? something sounds really off on mine. kinda fuzzy and muffled. i have a nice setup too. very thin diamond needle. i wanna say the original sounded better. haven't spun gish yet.

I'm gonna pass on all the vinyl reissues. my originals are just fine.

MisterSquishyHalo, on 30 November 2011 - 07:33 AM, said:

Pre Gish Album? Link?

it will be a release through SPRC, pretty sure.

[dustrock]

Got the Apple lossless downloaded. They sound pretty good - I'm no audiophile, I really only listen to music on my iphone these days, so this is as good as it gets.

My brother says "why remaster a masterpiece?" and I see what he's saying. I realize this isn't a different mix of the album at all, and it could simply be my old ears having listened hundreds of times to the original version, but I'm not seeing a real improvement.

It's been fun to get high-quality versions of the extra songs, particularly the stuff I've never heard before, and overall it's been better than I thought, but I'm not blown away by the remaster, in the same way I was for The Beatles remasters or say Murmur & Reckoning.

[thorazine]

the beatles remasters set the bar pretty high.

[Lunatic]

dustrock, on 30 November 2011 - 07:59 AM, said:

Got the Apple lossless downloaded. They sound pretty good - I'm no audiophile, I really only listen to music on my iphone these days, so this is as good as it gets.

My brother says "why remaster a masterpiece?" and I see what he's saying. I realize this isn't a different mix of the album at all, and it could simply be my old ears having listened hundreds of times to the original version, but I'm not seeing a real improvement.

It's been fun to get high-quality versions of the extra songs, particularly the stuff I've never heard before, and overall it's been better than I thought, but I'm not blown away by the remaster, in the same way I was for The Beatles remasters or say Murmur & Reckoning.

Well, you can't really fix something that's not broken. Gish sounds pretty stellar, and I think that Mellon Collie is also going to benefit greatly from a remaster/remix.

[Mayfair]

Lunatic, on 30 November 2011 - 08:13 AM, said:

Well, you can't really fix something that's not broken. Gish sounds pretty stellar, and I think that Mellon Collie is also going to benefit greatly from a remaster/remix.

i hope they dont actually remix it. AM and Flood did a really great job. a fresh remaster is all that`s needed.

[AlienCloak]

Lunatic, on 29 November 2011 - 05:37 PM, said:

The Gish front cover or the back cover as well? I'm wondering if there's one of both the front and back cover for both albums.

I got the back cover, the one with the heart.

[dustrock]

While overall I like the production on MCIS, it would be interesting to hear a different mix.

I'd love an option of a straight remaster of MCIS and a remixed version - some of the tracks the production just didn't seem full to me, but I'm no expert.

[RottingApples]

MisterSquishyHalo, on 30 November 2011 - 07:33 AM, said:

Pre Gish Album? Link?

One of those SPRC meeting videos from the tour. I can't recall off hand which one. But he mentioned in addition to Pisces, they'll be doing a Pre-Gish album. It wasn't stated specifically whether it would just be a digital collection, or if it would get a physical release.

[Mayfair]

dustrock, on 30 November 2011 - 10:51 AM, said:

While overall I like the production on MCIS, it would be interesting to hear a different mix.

I'd love an option of a straight remaster of MCIS and a remixed version - some of the tracks the production just didn't seem full to me, but I'm no expert.

which ones? its my favorite mix out of all the records.

[Arachnea]

I should have known that Billy's track by track commentary would comprise of mostly cryptic babbling. Can someone explain Soma to me? Robot eagles? Vampires? If Billy had not stated that this song dealt with infidelity in the Matt Pinfield interview, then I would not have a clue what he was trying to say. I can only imagine what he is going to come up with when he is ready to release MCIS. Aside from that, it is a really nice set. I cannot wait for MCIS and Adore.

[dustinberg]

Anyone that have this know where to type in that download code? I might be an idiot but I don't know where to do it

[Parksey]

Mayfair, on 30 November 2011 - 11:11 AM, said:

which ones? its my favorite mix out of all the records.

Jellybelly. BRING THE DRUMS FORWARD FFS.

[melonhead87]

Love the lithograph poster. This is what I get for preordering :whattodo:/>

I cant wait for MCIS, Adore, Machina I/II

[Lunatic]

Parksey, on 30 November 2011 - 05:39 PM, said:

Jellybelly. BRING THE DRUMS FORWARD FFS.

:thumbsup:/> :thumbsup:/> :thumbsup:/>

[snail33]

ArticulateEric, on 28 November 2011 - 03:39 PM, said:

I like Machina, but I get why it got a crappy review. Machina II however should have been the first released. It's a perfect summation of the 90's Pumpkins sound.

no it's not.

machina >>>>>>>>>>machina 2

[CourtJaster]

snail33, on 30 November 2011 - 07:29 PM, said:

no it's not.

machina >>>>>>>>>>machina 2

You are in the vast minority on this one.

[frednirv632]

snail33, on 30 November 2011 - 07:29 PM, said:

no it's not.

machina >>>>>>>>>>machina 2

wrong.

[Deleted User Account]

snail really screwed the pooch on that fact of life. As much as I do like Machina 1, Machina 2 is superior.

Tracks 1-8 on Machina 2 is some of the best Pumpkins music and sequencing of all time.

[Lunatic]

ArticulateEric, on 30 November 2011 - 07:35 PM, said:

snail really screwed the pooch on that fact of life. As much as I do like Machina 1, Machina 2 is superior.

Tracks 1-8 on Machina 2 is some of the best Pumpkins music and sequencing of all time.

I always skip Go and Innocence. :/

[Deleted User Account]

Lunatic, on 30 November 2011 - 07:38 PM, said:

I always skip Go and Innocence. :/

Maybe they're not the best standalone's, but in context they're delish. You hear me snail? Delish.

[AlienCloak]

I second delish.

[standing]

Lunatic, on 30 November 2011 - 07:38 PM, said:

I always skip Go and Innocence. :/

innocence is actually a great song. there is some real complexity buried in there once youve listened to it a few times. it also serves as a great setup for Home.

[RottingApples]

Innocence irritates me every time I hear it. Infinitely more so than Because You Are. Home is great though, as is most of the rest of MII.

[Kain067]

Home is one of the best songs they ever made.

And yet I think the same of Sacred and Profane, and Wound...

I would have to add my vote to the minority Machina > Machina II pile, but just barely.

[davidp2007]

Machina II is good but I like Machina I much more.

[oryann]

I can't wait till my SD reissue gets here.. I'm so psyched for Apathy's Last Kiss! It's always been one of my favorite rarities, but I never cared for the mix. I love the solid acoustic sound of the reissue version..

And of course I'm excited for the liner notes, and the original disc.

Also, for the sake of the whole Machina vs Machina 2 argument...

I like certain songs off of Machina 2 probably more so than any single songs on Machina, but I prefer Machina as a whole, because Machina 2 is just so cluttered and off the wall to me. Having said, Slow Dawn, In My Body, White Spyder, and especially If There Is A God are some of my favorite SP songs.

[ShamanO]

24bit/96K s where it's at..y'all need to get on that formatting #justsayin

GEEK and Silverfuck are gonna be THE BOMB!

This post has been edited by ShamanO: 01 December 2011 - 10:57 AM

[snail33]

the vast minority? yagottabekiddinme. is this another product of my being older than most here?

machina 2 is a holy hot mess. machina 1 is brilliant.

Machina I

The Everlasting Gaze=7/10
Raindrops + Sunshowers=7.5/10
Stand Inside Your Love=10/10
I of the Mourning=7.5/10
The Sacred and Profane=5.5/10
Try, Try, Try=9/10
Heavy Metal Machine=5/10
This Time=8.5/10
The Imploding Voice=7.5/10
Glass and the Ghost Children=7/10
Wound=10/10
The Crying Tree of Mercury=4/10
With Every Light=7/10
Blue Skies Bring Tears=8/10
Age of Innocence=7.5/10

Machina II

Glass' Theme=5/10
Cash Car Star=3/10
Dross=3/10
Real Love=7/10
Go=8/10
Let Me Give the World to You=4/10
Innosense=3/10
Home=5/10
Blue Skies Bring Tears=5.5/10
In My Body=4/10
If There Is a God=5.5/10
Atom Bomb=5/10

[thorazine]

^i agree.

[cleric]

the nerve..

[Mayfair]

snail33, on 01 December 2011 - 01:58 PM, said:

Cash Car Star=3/10
Dross=3/10
Let Me Give the World to You=4/10

Home=5/10

In My Body=4/10

:shocked:/>

snail33, on 01 December 2011 - 01:58 PM, said:

the vast minority? yagottabekiddinme. is this another product of my being older than most here?

ASL?

[Deleted User Account]

The Everlasting Gaze=8/10
Raindrops + Sunshowers=7.5/10
Stand Inside Your Love=10/10
I of the Mourning=8/10
The Sacred and Profane=2/10
Try, Try, Try=10/10
Heavy Metal Machine=7/10
This Time=4/10
The Imploding Voice=8/10
Glass and the Ghost Children=3/10
Wound=7/10
The Crying Tree of Mercury=7/10
With Every Light=9/10
Blue Skies Bring Tears=7/10
Age of Innocence=10/10

Machina II

Glass' Theme=8/10
Cash Car Star=8/10
Dross=9/10
Real Love=10/10
Go=7/10
Let Me Give the World to You=10/10
Innosense=7/10
Home=9/10
Blue Skies Bring Tears=3/10
In My Body=7,5/10
If There Is a God=5.5/10
Atom Bomb=6/10

I corrected them for you. If you reply to this with "wrong" I know you'll just be agreeing with my sentiments that you are brutally wrong. Well, some right. Mostly wrong.

[Gr3g3]

Home deserves a 10.

[oryann]

holy shit, just got my reissues... they sound sooooo great :)/> I'm loving Geek!!!!

[andrewface]

just downloaded the hifi files....it's like hearing the record for the first time again!

Parksey, on 30 November 2011 - 05:39 PM, said:

Jellybelly. BRING THE DRUMS FORWARD FFS.

remasters not remixes.... a jelly belly drum mix on the bonus album would be awesome tho!

[Deleted User Account]

WHERE DID MY RATING GO?!

Thorizine, do you feel like I'm bullying you? I was goofing you goober. Simon reprimanded me. I have to make this Pumpkins related. snail, this is all your faut.

[Parksey]

Gr3g3, on 01 December 2011 - 03:39 PM, said:

Home deserves a 10.

Fully agree.

[V for Vergudo]

ShamanO, on 01 December 2011 - 10:57 AM, said:

24bit/96K s where it's at..y'all need to get on that formatting #justsayin

They sound so good! I just got silverfucked.

Now I was wondering about those dvd's... Are they any good or just a bunch of lo-fi footage?

[Fernando]

snail33, on 01 December 2011 - 01:58 PM, said:

the vast minority? yagottabekiddinme. is this another product of my being older than most here?

machina 2 is a holy hot mess. machina 1 is brilliant.

Machina I

The Everlasting Gaze=7/10
Raindrops + Sunshowers=7.5/10
Stand Inside Your Love=10/10
I of the Mourning=7.5/10
The Sacred and Profane=5.5/10
Try, Try, Try=9/10
Heavy Metal Machine=5/10
This Time=8.5/10
The Imploding Voice=7.5/10
Glass and the Ghost Children=7/10
Wound=10/10
The Crying Tree of Mercury=4/10
With Every Light=7/10
Blue Skies Bring Tears=8/10
Age of Innocence=7.5/10

Machina II

Glass' Theme=5/10
Cash Car Star=3/10
Dross=3/10
Real Love=7/10
Go=8/10
Let Me Give the World to You=4/10
Innosense=3/10
Home=5/10
Blue Skies Bring Tears=5.5/10
In My Body=4/10
If There Is a God=5.5/10
Atom Bomb=5/10

:crazy:/>
I need that negative button working NOW.