[Ruby Ring]

I can't find any reference to this in any of the other topics, so forgive me if I have overlooked them.

I saw the post on FB last night that has the picture of the upcoming issue of Rolling Stone which has Billy's pic on it with the caption "The Return of the Smashing Pumpkins". To me, this was completely unexpected and is absolutely massive news, and promotion for the band. Billy Corgan's face will be shown everywhere magazines are sold for the first time since 1995. I can't imagine a bigger return to mainstream culture at this point in BC's career, even though the magazine is not what it once was. This is a huge deal.

[chrisothoulos]

ha they use a Mellon Collie era photo too.. kinda lame in that regard, but sweet nontheless

[mayday27]

I agree, congratulations!

[DeepPurple]

It is a big deal for the band and all, and im happy for them in one regard, but in another its sort of a back handed compliment to use a picture from the 90's, especially considering Billy offered to do a shoot for Rolling Stone. Its as if they're saying...yeah you have a new album and all, but remember when you were really good?. Eh well, any promotion is good promotion at this point I guess. The rest of the band deserves the spotlight as well though. I assume that the whole "greatest alternative records of the 90's" thing displayed on the front cover is the main reason for the old picture.

http://www.crestfallen.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/WPC_on_RSC-Aug2012-225x300.jpg

[Ruby Ring]

I don't mind them using an old photo. Let's remember - Billy Corgan is, in reality, a bald, slightly overweight 45 year old man. They are trying to sell magazines and Billy doesn't look as good as he once did. I am just glad to have a photo of BC from any time period on the cover of Rolling Stone.

[eyeboogers]

Ruby Ring, on 08 July 2012 - 09:38 AM, said:

I don't mind them using an old photo. Let's remember - Billy Corgan is, in reality, a bald, slightly overweight 45 year old man. They are trying to sell magazines and Billy doesn't look as good as he once did. I am just glad to have a photo of BC from any time period on the cover of Rolling Stone.

It's not the US = real version of "Rolling Stone", as far as I can tell it's the New Zealand edition. What made the US cover, sadly, was Deadmaus and a "dance madness" themed issue. Sad that a magazine, supposedly devoted to rock music and the values behind it, prioritizes in this manner,

[Human Sauce]

Ruby Ring, on 08 July 2012 - 09:38 AM, said:

I don't mind them using an old photo. Let's remember - Billy Corgan is, in reality, a bald, slightly overweight 45 year old man. They are trying to sell magazines and Billy doesn't look as good as he once did. I am just glad to have a photo of BC from any time period on the cover of Rolling Stone.

The most recent photos of Billy and the band look way better than the old photo they went with IMO

[DeepPurple]

eyeboogers, on 08 July 2012 - 10:14 AM, said:

It's not the US = real version of "Rolling Stone", as far as I can tell it's the New Zealand edition. What made the US cover, sadly, was Deadmaus and a "dance madness" themed issue. Sad that a magazine, supposedly devoted to rock music and the values behind it, prioritizes in this manner,

The Deadmau5 cover is the July issue. The Corgan cover is the August issue I believe.

RS current issue

[novisad]

DeepPurple, on 08 July 2012 - 09:34 AM, said:

I assume that the whole "greatest alternative records of the 90's" thing displayed on the front cover is the main reason for the old picture.

Human Sauce, on 08 July 2012 - 10:15 AM, said:

The most recent photos of Billy and the band look way better than the old photo they went with IMO

Like someone said here a few weeks ago, "it's basically still the 90s": http://www.smashingp...=1

[adamdanger!]

The Pumpkins posted this on their Facebook page. I found this comment from Eric Remschneider's wife. Is this a known beef? (I hope the pic uploads. I'm on my phone)

[adamdanger!]

Didn't work. Attempt 2...

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[Ruby Ring]

BC acknowledged his contributions in the liner notes to Disarm in the Siamese dream boxset, and very flatteringly so.

[Feriluce]

There would have been no Siamese Dream without him eh?

[scorpiopulse]

Yes, that "Wall of Cello" sound is what made Corgan so famous, after all.

[DeepPurple]

Feriluce, on 08 July 2012 - 11:41 AM, said:

There would have been no Siamese Dream without him eh?

Yeah uh...im sure she loves her husband and all, but what a dumb thing to say. Lord knows how many times ive thought about what a lesser album SD would have been if not for the dude who played those strings in Disarm :rofl:/> Eh...derp.

[GracefulSwan]

scorpiopulse, on 08 July 2012 - 12:09 PM, said:

Yes, that "Wall of Cello" sound is what made Corgan so famous, after all.

:rofl:/> They say there were overdubs of around 40 cellos on SD! :rofl:/>

[davidp2007]

DeepPurple, on 08 July 2012 - 10:28 AM, said:

The Deadmau5 cover is the July issue. The Corgan cover is the August issue I believe.

RS current issue

When would the August one being coming out then? Anyone know?

adamdanger!, on 08 July 2012 - 11:14 AM, said:

Didn't work. Attempt 2...

Okayyyyy...

[eyeboogers]

DeepPurple, on 08 July 2012 - 10:28 AM, said:

The Deadmau5 cover is the July issue. The Corgan cover is the August issue I believe.

RS current issue

This is not the american version, for instance the "John Mayer's regrets" article has already been printed in a past issue of the US version. Also note that the numbering is way of compared to the US version and that the currency says something about NZ.

[Ruby Ring]

Well damn. I knew it must be too good to be true.

[.absof.]

It's the Australian version. There are two prices listed on it; the standard Australian price and the slightly more expensive New Zealand price.

[jbear]

Makes sense since SP is about to kick off a tour of Australia and NZ. Would be a surprise to see them on the cover of the real RS at this point.

[lpdmax]

Who cares if it is the "Australian" version. Rolling Stone is Rolling Stone. If anything, it will help the band out IMO. In the United States, everyone knows who the Pumpkins are by now anyway. Either you like them or you don't. Atleast in Australia you might get some new fans out of it.

[g-fresh33]

Yep it's the Australian / New Zealand August issue.!!! I took the photo on the weekend at my mates place.!! :lol:/>

He has a subscription to RS so he gets the mag a little earlier then everyone else...
I'm getting him to scan it for me and I'll send the article this afternoon to Ozphoria so they can pass it on to everyone.!! :awklove:/>

[marigold]

.absof., on 08 July 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

It's the Australian version. There are two prices listed on it; the standard Australian price and the slightly more expensive New Zealand price.

it's the same price, that's just the currency difference :p/>


Gonna pick this up as soon as I see it!

[.absof.]

marigold, on 08 July 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

it's the same price, that's just the currency difference :p/>

Australian price is $7.95. New Zealand price is $9.10
Australian dollar is buying $1.28NZ.
7.95 X 1.28 = $10.17 :p/>

I think it's an "Australia always stooges New Zealand tax"

[awsmsc]

Rolling Stone is so stupid. Much of their content (and their covers) have nothing to do with music.

They have a one paragraph review of Oceania of 3/5, and now BC is on the cover? This is consistent with their practice of pretending they love an album that's successful that got a bad review from them and vice versa (Zeitgeist got 4/5, but then they changed it on their website) and BC didn't get a "SP are back" back when...it happened. Now we're getting it when BC is the only original member because the album has actually been pretty successful. And it's a photo from the 90s? So silly.

[eyeboogers]

awsmsc, on 09 July 2012 - 07:27 AM, said:

Rolling Stone is so stupid. Much of their content (and their covers) have nothing to do with music.

They have a one paragraph review of Oceania of 3/5, and now BC is on the cover? This is consistent with their practice of pretending they love an album that's successful that got a bad review from them and vice versa (Zeitgeist got 4/5, but then they changed it on their website) and BC didn't get a "SP are back" back when...it happened. Now we're getting it when BC is the only original member because the album has actually been pretty successful. And it's a photo from the 90s? So silly.

awsmc, i don't think you read the entire thread. it's australian Rolling Stone not the real one.

[DeepPurple]

eyeboogers, on 09 July 2012 - 07:43 AM, said:

awsmc, i don't think you read the entire thread. it's australian Rolling Stone not the real one.

Well...if you're Australian it's the real one... :scatch:/>

[lpdmax]

DeepPurple, on 09 July 2012 - 08:00 AM, said:

Well...if you're Australian it's the real one... :scatch:/>

Exactly. He is just a American elitist who thinks everything done in America is better than everything else.

BTW, Rolling Stone Australia has been around since 1972, only five years after the U.S. Version started. It is the longest running international edition of Rolling Stone. http://en.wikipedia....Stone_Australia

[eyeboogers]

lpdmax, on 09 July 2012 - 08:17 AM, said:

Exactly. He is just a American elitist who thinks everything done in America is better than everything else.

BTW, Rolling Stone Australia has been around since 1972, only five years after the U.S. Version started. It is the longest running international edition of Rolling Stone. http://en.wikipedia....Stone_Australia

heh, well i'm actually not american but the Rolling Stone publication is an american invention documenting mainly US pop culture and politics. It has many international sister publications, most of which - as is clearly the case judging from the australian cover, translates and reprints articles from the US version with a few original pieces thrown in. I'm sorry but the US version is "Rolling Stone" the rest are just watered down copies that can't really match the effect that for instance a cover story from the US version can have on album sales.

[lpdmax]

That may be true of most of the sister publications but not the Aussie. RS is not some backshelf magazine here and is very relevant. They had to be doing something right as well since it has been around almost as long as it has in the US.

Being on the cover in today's day in age where pop, country and dance music dominates the industry is good news for a band like SP.

[StarsAtHome]

Ruby Ring, on 08 July 2012 - 09:02 AM, said:

I can't find any reference to this in any of the other topics, so forgive me if I have overlooked them.

I saw the post on FB last night that has the picture of the upcoming issue of Rolling Stone which has Billy's pic on it with the caption "The Return of the Smashing Pumpkins". To me, this was completely unexpected and is absolutely massive news, and promotion for the band. Billy Corgan's face will be shown everywhere magazines are sold for the first time since 1995. I can't imagine a bigger return to mainstream culture at this point in BC's career, even though the magazine is not what it once was. This is a huge deal.

Yeah, and he looks like Dr. Evil, too.

[Arachnea]

lpdmax, on 09 July 2012 - 12:09 PM, said:

That may be true of most of the sister publications but not the Aussie. RS is not some backshelf magazine here and is very relevant. They had to be doing something right as well since it has been around almost as long as it has in the US.

Being on the cover in today's day in age where pop, country and dance music dominates the industry is good news for a band like SP.

The Aussie version tends to have musicians on their cover than the US version has in the past decade. This month Metallica is on the cover, the months before during this year featured Jack White, Bruce Springsteen, David Bowie, Soundgarden, Florence and the Machine, and Radiohead. However, even with being the longest surviving international edition, its impact is minimal as they are more isolated and small in population. Hence the influence is not strong on a global scale, at least not enough to make a big impact for the band outside of Australia and New Zealand. Nevertheless it is still wonderful that they are featured, even if I think they should have used a contemporary photograph over a mid 90's photo, because I think it sends the wrong message.

[marigold]

.absof., on 08 July 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

Australian price is $7.95. New Zealand price is $9.10
Australian dollar is buying $1.28NZ.
7.95 X 1.28 = $10.17 :p/>

I think it's an "Australia always stooges New Zealand tax"

oops yeah - I didn't do the calculation, but hey that means it cheaper here!


They've obviously used the photo for this Australia/NZ issue because of the upcoming tour, for a little promotion. I can only think that they used the 90's photo because of their 90's theme, and because the general music fan who knew of SP's fame in the 90's will recognise the 90's Billy more easily.
I don't listen to the radio here but I can't imagine them playing any Oceania songs. :rolleyes:/>

[frosty]

march's NME had an old picture of robert smith. i don't know if that mag does that regularly.

the pics of him on the inside are current.

[g-fresh33]

marigold, on 09 July 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

oops yeah - I didn't do the calculation, but hey that means it cheaper here!


They've obviously used the photo for this Australia/NZ issue because of the upcoming tour, for a little promotion. I can only think that they used the 90's photo because of their 90's theme, and because the general music fan who knew of SP's fame in the 90's will recognise the 90's Billy more easily.
I don't listen to the radio here but I can't imagine them playing any Oceania songs. :rolleyes:/>

Triple J has been playing a few songs from Oceania but not sure about the other radio stations.!!!

[Sophie]

lpdmax, on 09 July 2012 - 08:17 AM, said:

Exactly. He is just a American elitist who thinks everything done in America is better than everything else.

BTW, Rolling Stone Australia has been around since 1972, only five years after the U.S. Version started. It is the longest running international edition of Rolling Stone. http://en.wikipedia....Stone_Australia

Man your post makes me laugh so much... Re-read it and realize how patronizing and "elistist" it sounds compared to the one of eyeboogers who probably meant "original" instead of "real".

FYI this summer in France we have Jack White on the RS cover. I'll check if there are SP news inside but I doubt it...

http://www.rollingstone.fr/local/cache-gd2/ea3708dbcd8cc45dfcae24d66bffbea8.jpg

[DeepPurple]

Sophie, on 10 July 2012 - 04:05 AM, said:

FYI this summer in France we have Jack White on the RS cover. I'll check if there are SP news inside but I doubt it...

Yeah but, but...but since its the French Rolling Stone it doesn't even exist. :mwah:/>

[Sophie]

DeepPurple, on 10 July 2012 - 05:42 AM, said:

Yeah but, but...but since its the French Rolling Stone it doesn't even exist. :mwah:/>

:rofl:/>


What worries me a little is the name of the artists/bands on the cover. Only newbies as you can see...

[frosty]

everyone in France also speaks English, soph?

[StarsAtHome]

"Return of The Smashing Pumpkins + the making of Siamese Dream"

Ha ha, they're afraid no one cares about the return of SP alone. Everybody wants to read about the making of SD?

[Sophie]

frosty, on 10 July 2012 - 06:17 PM, said:

everyone in France also speaks English, soph?

Hell no, not everyone is fluent around here. Obviously you've never been to France!

Well... everyone had to learn English at school but let's face it: we totally suck at speaking foreign languages, whatever they are. Even when we suceed in getting a sentence properly ordered, the accent ruins the whole thing. :p/>

I read somewhere that this may be due to the fact that our language is composed of sounds with very low frequencies compared to English. So basically our vocal cords lack practice.

But I do think the global level is increasing a little though. For instance a lot of people prefer now watching TV series in English (with the subtitltes in French, but still), which was not the case ten years ago. French bands (and rock bands in particular) also start to sing in English rather than in French, which used to be not really well received in the context of the fight for francophony and of the "cultural exception" concept.

Anyway what really got me into learning English was that I wanted soooo badly to understand what the rock bands frontmen were singing on the radio! And now I practice English on a daily basis at work, with foreign friends, and on this very forum. But I still make a lot of mistakes and I still learn new words everyday, especially slang. ;)/>

[frosty]

i see. i was reading the cover of that Rolling Stone mag and trying to see if it had a mixture of French and English, and all i see is the thing that says Best of Rock and the other side saying portfolio, so that got me wondering if English was common over there. i didn't know about the low frequency thing you mentioned. that's interesting.

[Sophie]

frosty, on 11 July 2012 - 06:41 AM, said:

i see. i was reading the cover of that Rolling Stone mag and trying to see if it had a mixture of French and English, and all i see is the thing that says Best of Rock and the other side saying portfolio, so that got me wondering if English was common over there. i didn't know about the low frequency thing you mentioned. that's interesting.

It's just that several words used in everyday life come from English terms such as: week end, interview, pull over/T-shirt, best-of/best-seller,...
Just like you use English words of French origin: rendez-vous, cliché, garage, and other things like that ;)/>.