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#1 User is offline   G'day Mate 

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 03:59 PM

This multiple artwork and multiple release date stuff does make it a little tricky at times, and I'm never really sure whether Teargarden Theme and Cottonwood Symphony are supposed to be the first or last tracks on each EP either.

Best solution for me was to give the EPs different album names so that at least the different artwork was visible, and to make the bonus songs track 1.
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 04:06 PM

yeah that's how I started, but I also have it in one just called TbK too

and dunno if I bothered with the artwork...i'll have to look into that as well again
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 04:12 PM

Right now...I have the downloads from the site as one album and the EPs separated. Until I figure out what to do with Teargarden Theme and Cottonwood, they are in their own album with the EP art of each track.

I'll probably change it up later.
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 05:43 PM

theme
sfas
astral
wwmm
stitch
fellowship
freak
tom tom
spangled
cottonwood

seems to work for me...
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 07:37 PM

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 09:09 PM

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Although I'm putting everything under one album, I'm still using the different album art. It won't be visual in menus, but it is when the song is playing. Here's the art I'm using:

Teargarden Theme (and main cover): IPB Image
A Song For a Son: IPB Image
Freak: IPB Image
Spangled: IPB Image
Cottonwood Symphony (this one doesn't really fit. It was just on the file when I downloaded it and I decided not to get rid of it.): IPB Image


I'm trying to make it fit the best I can. I'm pretty anal retentive with music filing and all.
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 09:11 PM

QUOTE(paulandgemm @ Jan 10 2011, 05:43 PM) View Post

theme
sfas
astral
wwmm
stitch
fellowship
freak
tom tom
spangled
cottonwood

seems to work for me...


Yes, this is the only way to do it.
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 09:11 PM

I always play Cottonwood as an intro to the second EP. Other than that mine is the same as yours.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 10:40 PM

Where was Cottonwood on the second vinyl, first or last?
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 10:49 PM

I have everything in direct order (Teargarden Theme - Cottonwood) under the same name.. don't separate EPs or anything.. It bugs me to do that because I just want to have everything under one name.. Makes it feel more like a solid album. Different artworks applied though.
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 11:29 PM

@G'day Mate
Cottonwood is one track on the other side
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 06:37 AM

QUOTE(the_farewell_party @ Jan 11 2011, 12:09 AM) View Post

IPB Image

Although I'm putting everything under one album, I'm still using the different album art. It won't be visual in menus, but it is when the song is playing. Here's the art I'm using:

Teargarden Theme (and main cover): IPB Image
A Song For a Son: IPB Image
Freak: IPB Image
Spangled: IPB Image
Cottonwood Symphony (this one doesn't really fit. It was just on the file when I downloaded it and I decided not to get rid of it.): IPB Image


I'm trying to make it fit the best I can. I'm pretty anal retentive with music filing and all.


Maybe I'm not understanding your reasoning, but if you're that anal retentive, how come you have the EP1 artwork for ASFAS and then Spangled gets the EP2 artwork and Cottonwood Symphony's is actually the artwork that accompanied Spangled on SP.com?

And how come Teargarden Theme as no genre?
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 12:11 PM

I am trying to use both the download and EP covers. Since I can't really use two pictures for one song, I use one picture for the opening song and one picture for the next track. Spangles also cannot have two pictures, so I'm just using the picture on Cottonwood.

And I guess I just forgot to put in a genre for the Teargarden Theme. But genres aren't as important to me in tagging music files, because it's hard to categorize a lot of music into specific genres, anyways.
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 02:44 PM

QUOTE(Behived @ Jan 12 2011, 04:59 PM) View Post

@G'day Mate
Cottonwood is one track on the other side


Seriously? Hah! Talk about difficult.
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 02:53 PM

Incidentally ...

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 02:58 PM

I would do that, but I wouldn't want to clutter my iPod menu with 11 different albums when I could make it one.
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 03:42 PM

good topic....i was wondering what other people were doing myself.....i basically have teargarden theme first, followed by the songs in the order they were released, with cottonwood last......seems to flow well
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 03:55 PM

I've got mine like gyang, minus Teargarden Theme and Cottonwood Symphony. Then different artwork for each volume obviously. (Can't wait to have 11! different volumes on my iPod) liz.gif

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 05:20 PM

Does anyone else miss the old days when you just bought a CD/tape/record and listened to it as it was meant to be played?
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 07:00 PM

Somewhat...although I think this is a pretty interesting way of doing things. Now, if every band started following this format... I might go from rofl2.gif to steve.gif
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 09:31 PM

QUOTE(the_farewell_party @ Jan 12 2011, 03:11 PM) View Post

I am trying to use both the download and EP covers. Since I can't really use two pictures for one song, I use one picture for the opening song and one picture for the next track. Spangles also cannot have two pictures, so I'm just using the picture on Cottonwood.

And I guess I just forgot to put in a genre for the Teargarden Theme. But genres aren't as important to me in tagging music files, because it's hard to categorize a lot of music into specific genres, anyways.


I don't know, I feel like that the physical artwork was meant to be displayed on the physical covers and the mp3 covers are just that, for the mp3s.
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 11:52 PM

QUOTE(gyang333 @ Jan 13 2011, 05:31 AM) View Post

I don't know, I feel like that the physical artwork was meant to be displayed on the physical covers and the mp3 covers are just that, for the mp3s.


theme
sfas
astral
wwmm
stitch
fellowship
freak
tom tom
spangled

I haven't put Cottonwood in, as it just doesn't fit into the rest properly, IT sounds like a completely different B-side, while Theme actually sounds like the opening piece

I actually put Cottonwood in with the unreleased stuff from my If All Goes Wrong album ( with mama and etc ). Fits a little more there
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Posted 13 January 2011 - 12:22 AM

cottonwood is a b-side, stick in another pile and wait for more b-sides or leave it at the end of EP2
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Posted 13 January 2011 - 12:36 AM

QUOTE(JasonEvers @ Jan 13 2011, 07:22 PM) View Post

cottonwood is a b-side, stick in another pile and wait for more b-sides or leave it at the end of EP2

I've got it in one album, but each EP is set to a different "disc". Hence, the corresponding songs have the right artwork.

Teargarden Theme first, Cottonwood last.
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Posted 13 January 2011 - 05:48 PM

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 08:26 PM

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I'm thinking that the purple-ish tinged mp3 artwork is the correct one. they really fucked this EP's artwork up :|

when freak came out, it was just a cropped version from the flash player. Freak iTunes single had a slightly better one, they had a larger sized one on their facebook and now i've noticed that they have a new purple tinged artwork that is sized the same as the EP1 mp3 artwork.
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Posted 15 January 2011 - 10:56 PM

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I have that track order, but I use the physical EP artwork as the album art.

But it doesn't matter since "Freak" is the only song I listen to anyways.
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 01:06 PM

I have the B-sides filed under "Teargarden by Kaleidyscope: B-sides" and the EPs seperate.

Then I have a playlist where I put it all together.


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Posted 17 January 2011 - 04:22 PM

Duhze - you have two number 5s
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 07:47 PM

QUOTE(G'day Mate @ Jan 18 2011, 12:22 AM) View Post

Duhze - you have two number 5s

Thanks for catching that
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 11:21 AM

QUOTE(Bulletproofmask @ Jan 13 2011, 01:20 AM) View Post

Does anyone else miss the old days when you just bought a CD/tape/record and listened to it as it was meant to be played?


Imagine if all the great paintings of the world were re-released as backgrounds with sticker sets.
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 02:17 PM

you gotta factor in for all the different versions of tbk that there will be by the end. I just dump everything into my itunes and let it fall how it will. THEN i organize it all in the form of playlists. I do 1) free download mix; 2) EP mix; and EP plus vinyl mix. For the download mix, I use the ACTUAL downloads. For the EP mix I use cd rips. And for the mix including vinyl, I add vinyl rips of the vinyl-exclusive songs. Here's how it goes.

Download mix:
Song for a son
Widow
Stitch
Astral
Freak
Spangled
Tom Tom
Fellowship


EP mix:
SFAS
Astral
Widow (extended of course)
Stitch
Fellowship
Freak
Tom Tom
Spangled


Vinyl mix:
TBK Theme (vinyl)
SFAS
Astral
Widow (extended of course)
Stitch
Fellowship
Freak
Tom Tom
Spangled
Cottonwood (vinyl).
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 04:14 PM

I think this thread exhibits the beauty in the whole idea of the format this "album is being released, because we can pick and choose the order of the songs ourselves, and we the audience become part of the actual process of the album by dictating it to our tastes.

As for myself, I have organised the songs in such a way that they are not included in any of my media player's libraries, because I hate all of them.
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 06:56 PM

^ post of the day
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 07:20 PM

QUOTE(standing @ Jan 19 2011, 05:17 PM) View Post

you gotta factor in for all the different versions of tbk that there will be by the end. I just dump everything into my itunes and let it fall how it will. THEN i organize it all in the form of playlists. I do 1) free download mix; 2) EP mix; and EP plus vinyl mix. For the download mix, I use the ACTUAL downloads. For the EP mix I use cd rips. And for the mix including vinyl, I add vinyl rips of the vinyl-exclusive songs. Here's how it goes.

Download mix:
Song for a son
Widow
Stitch
Astral
Freak
Spangled
Tom Tom
Fellowship
EP mix:
SFAS
Astral
Widow (extended of course)
Stitch
Fellowship
Freak
Tom Tom
Spangled
Vinyl mix:
TBK Theme (vinyl)
SFAS
Astral
Widow (extended of course)
Stitch
Fellowship
Freak
Tom Tom
Spangled
Cottonwood (vinyl).

i think i saw somewhere that astral planes is extended on the vinyl released on record store day?

would be great to hear this.
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 08:38 PM

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i think i saw somewhere that astral planes is extended on the vinyl released on record store day?

would be great to hear this.



I heard that was a sham. I tried to track it down and appearantly no one is even sharing it because the extension is SO insignificant.
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Posted 19 January 2011 - 08:45 PM

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I heard that was a sham. I tried to track it down and appearantly no one is even sharing it because the extension is SO insignificant.


ohhhhh gotcha wink.gif

fucking hoarders...
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 10:55 AM

G'day mate i like your name
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 11:35 AM

QUOTE(Julian @ Jan 20 2011, 12:14 AM) View Post

I think this thread exhibits the beauty in the whole idea of the format this "album is being released, because we can pick and choose the order of the songs ourselves, and we the audience become part of the actual process of the album by dictating it to our tastes.

As for myself, I have organised the songs in such a way that they are not included in any of my media player's libraries, because I hate all of them.


Um. Could whoever deleted my reply to this please pm me? I'd like to find out why... It was meant as dry and humorous, and not altogether serious, so I hope it wasn't considered "excessive negativity". There was certainly no "hate" in it.
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 03:40 PM

I'd like to see the reply too sad.gif
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 07:13 PM

QUOTE(whywontyoulisten @ Jan 20 2011, 02:35 PM) View Post

Um. Could whoever deleted my reply to this please pm me? I'd like to find out why... It was meant as dry and humorous, and not altogether serious, so I hope it wasn't considered "excessive negativity". There was certainly no "hate" in it.



ha. welcome to the sp board. may as well start keeping your thoughts to yourself now.
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Posted 09 February 2011 - 05:59 PM

I organize it by EP tracklisting now and just tack the vinyl bonus tracks at the end of each EP. I do have an alternate playlist for the tracks in order of release--well sans the b-sides.
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 04:51 AM

I have the EPs separated in my albums, but then I have a running Teargarden playlist that I add each new song to as they come out.

Theme
SFAS
WWMM
Stitch
Astral
Cottonwood
Freak
Spangled
Fellowship
Tom Tom

(Lonely is the name in a separate "Teargarden Demos" album.)
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Posted 01 March 2011 - 02:54 AM

current playlist

teargarden theme
wwmm
astral planes
freak
stitch
cottonwood
fellowship
tom tom
spangled
sfas

works great,. widow and astral never sounded so good!!

think of cottonwood as a little interlude.
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