[DandyJon]

Jisan Valley Rock Festival 2012

This post has been edited by DandyJon: 28 July 2012 - 08:10 AM

[ButterflyBullets]

wut. I thought he was trying to distance himself from SP/BC anyway...but then again, it is his song too

[RottingApples]

:cheers:/> Good ol James and his spotty singing. Nice to see him in some way acknowledge the band.

[thebeatle]

Wow...

[ButterflyBullets]

Now we just need D'arcy to show some sign of life :cheers:/>

[DandyJon]

 ButterflyBullets, on 28 July 2012 - 08:29 AM, said:

Now we just need D'arcy to show some sign of life :cheers:/>

Maybe she'll ride one of her horses onto the stage and sing Daydream

[standing]

 DandyJon, on 28 July 2012 - 08:33 AM, said:

Maybe she'll ride one of her horses onto the stage and sing Daydream

she cowrote daughter, so maybe she could tour on that.

[DandyJon]

 standing, on 28 July 2012 - 08:48 AM, said:

she cowrote daughter, so maybe she could tour on that.

I love that song :happy:/>

[lpdmax]

I think this means that James wants to be in the spotlight again. He knows right now he is just an afterthought. Now, whether that spotlight could include a return to the band is unknown. But it is no coincidence that he played this song.

[indisposed]

Iha has never disparaged his time in the Pumpkins, and if Billy is coming to the point where he is accepting of his past in his new endeavours, then perhaps James is too. It's a great thing!

[GracefulSwan]

Interesting turn of events... James' voice seems to be as good as it was twenty years ago too.

[soVerysadAboutyou]

what. the. hell.

[PresidentX]

I hope Billy invites Nina Gordon on stage to sing a "...Said Sadly" duet. :o/>

[Hummer75]

made me sad =(

[Elphenor]

Wow, that sounded awful :lol:/>

[AlienCloak]

How cool would it be if they played a 1-off show with BC/James/Jeff/Nicole/Mike/JC. Three guitars and have Mike play bongos (or keys, he plays keyboard, right?) along Jimmy.

[LostSoul]

I know it is partly his song, but something about him singing it seems redundant. James & Billy HATE each other...and yet here James is, singing words Billy has written, with heart no less.

Not saying its a bad thing, of course. Just...rather fascinating. :)/>

[davidp2007]

I believe this was played yesterday right? That was the anniversary of the release of Siamese Dream, so maybe James was feeling nostalgic. It's a bit surreal to hear him play it. His vocals in general don't seem to fit the song, and they were bit off in general in this case, but it still something very interesting indeed.

 standing, on 28 July 2012 - 08:48 AM, said:

she cowrote daughter, so maybe she could tour on that.

Haha

[lemonscure]

 LostSoul, on 28 July 2012 - 01:04 PM, said:

I know it is partly his song, but something about him singing it seems redundant. James & Billy HATE each other...and yet here James is, singing words Billy has written, with heart no less.

Not saying its a bad thing, of course. Just...rather fascinating. :)/>

James hates Billy? Where did you heard that? All the bad words were Billys, I don't remember reading/hearing anything bad about Billy from James. By the way, loved the performance.

[MonteLDS]

Iha has seemed to stay away from talking about the Pumpkins. So the fact that he is playing and singing this song is really odd.

I think it's also ironic that he sings "can anybody hear me, i just want to be me"
He might as well sing "I just want to be---Bill-yyyyy"

I think playing Smashing Pumpkins songs he wrote would of made much more sense. But of all the Pumpkins songs this was one he got some credit. After all he wrote a couple of chords for it. And was voted a fan favorite on Rolling Stones.

[davidp2007]

 MonteLDS, on 28 July 2012 - 01:24 PM, said:

Iha has seemed to stay away from talking about the Pumpkins. So the fact that he is playing and singing this song is really odd.

I think it's also ironic that he sings "can anybody hear me, i just want to be me"
He might as well sing "I just want to be---Bill-yyyyy"

I think playing Smashing Pumpkins songs he wrote would of made much more sense. But of all the Pumpkins songs this was one he got some credit. After all he wrote a couple of chords for it. And was voted a fan favorite on Rolling Stones.

Yeah it did seem a bit odd. And you're right, it probably would have made more sense for him to play songs that he solely wrote himself. The only thing I can think was that it was the SD anniversary and it was a fan favorite (and he co-wrote it), and maybe those are reasons he played it. I suppose if Peter Hook can play entire Joy Division albums without the rest of Joy Division/New Order, then James probably feels it's alright for him to play one SP song. It would be interesting if he decided to bring out "Blew Away" or something into shows though.

Does anyone know if he played songs from Let it Come Down as well? I imagine he played quite a few songs from the new album.

[soniclovenoize]

This is actually pretty hilarious.

He could have a good career doing acoustic covers on youtube.

[dudehitscar]

It was hard to watch. Just awful. I have much love for iha but that awful.

[CZR]

Where the he'll did you guys read that James ever bad mouthed Billy? It has been all Billy. As far I can tell James never acknowledged Billy

[JSapp]

I heard James Iha is a piece of shit. That's the word on the street

[ElectricSun]

Cool. Now let's see Billy play some Zwan and TFE songs on this tour.

[MonteLDS]

 CZR, on 28 July 2012 - 02:46 PM, said:

Where the he'll did you guys read that James ever bad mouthed Billy? It has been all Billy. As far I can tell James never acknowledged Billy

Some might say this was bad mouthing
http://www.starla.or...ticles/atnj.htm

ATN: Do you feel like Smashing Pumpkins has been misunderstood by the media?

Iha: The main focus has been on Billy. Yeah, the music's been misunderstood and the band's been misunderstood but Billy caused a lot of those problems with those first slew of interviews he did. Basically the media just played to it and that was the angle on the whole last album. Yeah, I don't think people understand the band dynamic and I don't think people understand the music really well. You just get a dominant front person and you don't ever hear about the band or the records. It's like, what did people talk about Nirvana? They talked about Kurt, they talked about Courtney Love, heroin abuse and smashing guitars and punk rock. They never talked about how good the songs were, how good the lyrics were. Even on the second one. No one talked about how good the record was. So that's the same thing. They have the front person, they did their focus on the last album, that was it.

[CZR]

 MonteLDS, on 28 July 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

Some might say this was bad mouthing
http://www.starla.or...ticles/atnj.htm

ATN: Do you feel like Smashing Pumpkins has been misunderstood by the media?

Iha: The main focus has been on Billy. Yeah, the music's been misunderstood and the band's been misunderstood but Billy caused a lot of those problems with those first slew of interviews he did. Basically the media just played to it and that was the angle on the whole last album. Yeah, I don't think people understand the band dynamic and I don't think people understand the music really well. You just get a dominant front person and you don't ever hear about the band or the records. It's like, what did people talk about Nirvana? They talked about Kurt, they talked about Courtney Love, heroin abuse and smashing guitars and punk rock. They never talked about how good the songs were, how good the lyrics were. Even on the second one. No one talked about how good the record was. So that's the same thing. They have the front person, they did their focus on the last album, that was it.

Probably an honest answer from Iha at the time of the interview, better than calling someone "piece of shit". Imagine being the captain of the Federation Starship USS Enterprise, if the Starship = Smashing Pumpkins and Captain = Billy Corgan. Mr. Picard nor any Starfleet Captain would ever call his first officer "Piece of shit" lol.

[adamdanger!]

http://idol-mania.com/american-idol-fan/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Randy-Jackson.jpg

That was pitchy, Dawg.

[PopcornSmiley]

 adamdanger!, on 28 July 2012 - 04:23 PM, said:

http://idol-mania.com/american-idol-fan/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Randy-Jackson.jpg

That was pitchy, Dawg.

lol true, sadly

[dudehitscar]

 MonteLDS, on 28 July 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

Some might say this was bad mouthing
http://www.starla.or...ticles/atnj.htm

ATN: Do you feel like Smashing Pumpkins has been misunderstood by the media?

Iha: The main focus has been on Billy. Yeah, the music's been misunderstood and the band's been misunderstood but Billy caused a lot of those problems with those first slew of interviews he did. Basically the media just played to it and that was the angle on the whole last album. Yeah, I don't think people understand the band dynamic and I don't think people understand the music really well. You just get a dominant front person and you don't ever hear about the band or the records. It's like, what did people talk about Nirvana? They talked about Kurt, they talked about Courtney Love, heroin abuse and smashing guitars and punk rock. They never talked about how good the songs were, how good the lyrics were. Even on the second one. No one talked about how good the record was. So that's the same thing. They have the front person, they did their focus on the last album, that was it.

The first few machina interviews billy was supposedly acting as Glass and not himself.

[RottingApples]

 MonteLDS, on 28 July 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

Some might say this was bad mouthing
http://www.starla.or...ticles/atnj.htm

ATN: Do you feel like Smashing Pumpkins has been misunderstood by the media?

Iha: The main focus has been on Billy. Yeah, the music's been misunderstood and the band's been misunderstood but Billy caused a lot of those problems with those first slew of interviews he did. Basically the media just played to it and that was the angle on the whole last album. Yeah, I don't think people understand the band dynamic and I don't think people understand the music really well. You just get a dominant front person and you don't ever hear about the band or the records. It's like, what did people talk about Nirvana? They talked about Kurt, they talked about Courtney Love, heroin abuse and smashing guitars and punk rock. They never talked about how good the songs were, how good the lyrics were. Even on the second one. No one talked about how good the record was. So that's the same thing. They have the front person, they did their focus on the last album, that was it.

How is it badmouthing? There's no name calling, and it's actually pretty true. People do focus far more on the front man/ woman than the music most times.

[CZR]

And you gotta give Iha a little more credit for mayonnaise, for those who don't. He actually created the wacky tuning and chord structure/progression. The octaves makes the song chords instantly memorable. and Billy's talent for writing vocal melodies makes it 100%, he's really singing the same intervals as he usually does anyways.

[soniclovenoize]

 MonteLDS, on 28 July 2012 - 01:24 PM, said:

After all he wrote a couple of chords for it. And was voted a fan favorite on Rolling Stones.

To be fair, the song only has a couple of chords anyways.

[themadcaplaughs]

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Iha has seemed to stay away from talking about the Pumpkins. So the fact that he is playing and singing this song is really odd.

I think it's also ironic that he sings "can anybody hear me, i just want to be me"
He might as well sing "I just want to be---Bill-yyyyy"

I think playing Smashing Pumpkins songs he wrote would of made much more sense. But of all the Pumpkins songs this was one he got some credit. After all he wrote a couple of chords for it. And was voted a fan favorite on Rolling Stones.
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For someone who obviously has understanding of the Pumpkins, it shames me how you say things that you know damn well aren't true just so you can stay under Billy's good graces. Are you still mad at James for not signing that Alf doll?

[gyang333]

 CZR, on 28 July 2012 - 04:12 PM, said:

Probably an honest answer from Iha at the time of the interview, better than calling someone "piece of shit". Imagine being the captain of the Federation Starship USS Enterprise, if the Starship = Smashing Pumpkins and Captain = Billy Corgan. Mr. Picard nor any Starfleet Captain would ever call his first officer "Piece of shit" lol.

That is a terrible comparison. Billy never took any sort of oath, or went through Starfleet training (Rock & Roll bandcamp or whatvever the fuck), he woudn't have the morale fortitude to be a starfleet officer.

[JSapp]

Wouldn't Jimmy have been the first officer anyway?

[DeepPurple]

Iha shouldn't sing this song simply because he sounds like crap doing it. I mean...that was just bad.

[frosty]

i enjoyed it.
that ending was pretty cool.

[gyang333]

 frosty, on 28 July 2012 - 08:06 PM, said:

i enjoyed it.
that ending was pretty cool.

agreed. I'm surprised people are complaining about his voice. I'm not even a big fan of James Iha SP, but he's doing pretty well.

[frednirv632]

define 'well'

[soonergiant65]

That was simply amazing. I think James should hook up with this young lady and make the most powerful duets of all time.

[the_farewell_party]

 MonteLDS, on 28 July 2012 - 01:24 PM, said:

I think it's also ironic that he sings "can anybody hear me, i just want to be me"
He might as well sing "I just want to be---Bill-yyyyy"

By that logic, anyone covering the song should also sing "I just want to be Billy". In fact, anyone performing any song written in first person should replace all first-person pronouns with the name of the original lyricist.

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Stevie Nicks took Stevie Nicks' love and Stevie Nicks took it down
Stevie Nicks climbed a mountain and Stevie Nicks turned around

And Stevie Nicks saw Stevie Nicks' reflection in the snow covered hills
'Till the landslide brought Stevie Nicks down

Oh, mirror in the sky
What is love?
Can the child within Stevie Nicks' heart rise above?
Can Stevie Nicks sail thru the changing ocean tides?
Can Stevie Nicks handle the seasons of Stevie Nicks' life?

Mmm Mmm...
Well, Stevie Nicks' been afraid of changing
'Cause Stevie Nicks' built Stevie Nicks' life around you
But time makes you bolder
Children get older
Stevie Nicks' getting older too

Well, Stevie Nicks' been afraid of changing
'Cause Stevie Nicks, Stevie Nicks built Stevie Nicks' life around you
But time makes you bolder
Children get older
Stevie Nicks' getting older too
Stevie Nicks' getting older too

So, take my love, take it down
Oh climb a mountain and turn around
If you see Stevie Nicks' reflection in the snow covered hills
Well the landslide will bring you down, down

And If you see Stevie Nicks' reflection in the snow covered hills
Well maybe the landslide will bring it down
Oh oh, the landslide will bring it down

—"Landslide"-The Smashing Pumpkins (Written and composed by Stevie Nicks and originally performed by Fleetwood Mac)

[rosenkreuzer]

my ears are bleeding.