[RottingApples]

1. FOL - embarrassing - truly and wholly. The lyrics are lame and lack any real substance, in addition to just being all in all embarassing: "I'll lick the polished chrome/ there's magic everywhere". The riff's kind of cool, but it can't make up for his atrocious vocal delivery (same as Zeitgeist- the album: lacking any and all conviction), as well as the ultimately cringe-worthy lyrics.
2. Jesus Needs a Hit - FOL in acoustic form. The lyrics are trite and sound like a 14 year old writing his first song (Jesus needs a hit/ you can't even quit...)
3. Spangled - Most of my problem with this is production. The song isn't much, and doesn't do much for me in anyway, but it suffers the same fate as most post-reunion studio material - it's production sounds like shit. I enjoy it far more as a solo acoustic song (see Death From Above), but all in all it's still just a weak song, that only further agitates me to know it was chosen over so many other great songs that remain unreleased.
4. Astral Planes - A kind of cool idea that never got past the first riff stage with some of the dumbest lyrics BC's ever penned.
5. Bring the Light - Cheese, all around.
6. Come On Let's Go - See Bring the Light, with a little less cheese, and a little more dumb.
7. Superchrist - See Bimbly's explanation.
8. Pomp and Circumstances - I would have loved to have heard it with Danny Elfman's string arrangement (as it was originally intended), but I have my doubts it would have saved it regardless. For a band that excelled at writing grandiose, melodramatic material, this sounds like it died under its own bloated weight.
9. Jesus Loves His Babies - In all honesty, it's the super lame joke phone message thing in the bridge that kills this song for me. If this ever comes out with that cut out, I'd undoubtedly think much higher of it.
10. Jesus is the Sun & 11. I'm Doing the Best I Can- I'm going to amend my list here now that some time has passed and I've given it more thought. I don't think too highly of Jesus is the Sun or I'm Doing the Best I Can, but there are two other songs I know of that I care infinitely less for than them:

10. Innocence - I find myself incapable of listening to whenever it comes on. It's really just his vocals that kill it for me, but the melody/ lyrics/ music are a little much for my taste.
11. Spaceboy - The only down part of Siamese Dream. On it's own, it's a mediocre song, but whenever I listen to SD front to back, this really is the low point of the experience for me. Would have been great as a b-side, but stacked up against greats like Soma, Geek, and Silverfuck, make this song sound so much worse.

This post has been edited by RottingApples: 08 May 2012 - 03:02 PM

[Elphenor]

Ugh, some people put Lily on the list!? That hurts, it's such an amazing song!

[Feriluce]

Well most of the choices here are obvious anyway...but people make mistakes all the time. *nods...thinking about the fools with Marquis In Spades in there list* :nono:/>

[the_farewell_party]

ItsSoPringles, on 03 May 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:

what in the fuck, also how in the hell is freak, lightning strikes, JETS and spangled even remotely worse than astral planes, i dont care if you think they good or bad but saying any of those is worse than astral is complete and total bullshit

At least Astral Planes has a cool riff. The only thing I resent is hearing it over and over again with stupid and equally repetitive lyrics on top.

But you're probably right about Spangled and Jesus is the Sun being better than Astral Planes. I didn't go to great lengths to make sure the ranking was perfect. But something about Freak and Lightning Strikes just pisses me off for a reason I cannot identify and I would rather listen to even Astral Planes than those songs.

[Dontgetangryitsjustagame]

Real Love
Innosense
Widow Wake my Mind
Come On Let's Go
Bring the Light
Tales of a Scorched Earth
Take Me Down
Farewell and Goodnight
33
Blue Skies Bring Tears
Communion

[chadbrochillington]

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1. FOL - embarrassing - truly and wholly. The lyrics are lame and lack any real substance, in addition to just being all in all embarassing: "I'll lick the polished chrome/ there's magic everywhere". The riff's kind of cool, but it can't make up for his atrocious vocal delivery (same as Zeitgeist- the album: lacking any and all conviction), as well as the ultimately cringe-worthy lyrics.

Indeed. I can kinda enjoy it on a "well, at least the drums and guitars sound cool" level, but lyrics and vocals are throwaway shite. Actually, as I recall, people were initially praising it on it's release because the vocals were a little more dynamic that Zeitgeist. Still pretty bad.

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2. Jesus Needs a Hit - FOL in acoustic form. The lyrics are trite and sound like a 14 year old writing his first song (Jesus needs a hit/ you can't even quit...)

Fact!

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3. Spangled - Most of my problem with this is production. The song isn't much, and doesn't do much for me in anyway, but it suffers the same fate as most post-reunion studio material - it's production sounds like shit. I enjoy it far more as a solo acoustic song (see Death From Above), but all in all it's still just a weak song, that only further agitates me to know it was chosen over so many other great songs that remain unreleased.

Indeed again. Hate the production and mix on this with a passion. That super dry harpsichord is just.... yuck, for some reason. Lead guitar is... confusing. I can appreciate Billy trying to write something more harmonically ambitious, but the melodies just sound sour in several places. Almost made my list.

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4. Astral Planes - A kind of cool idea that never got past the first riff stage with some of the dumbest lyrics BC's ever penned.

I can get on board with a super repetitive mantra-like song, but it's the presence of Linda Strawberry that really kills it off for me.

[Deleted User Account]

What sounds sour about Spangled's melody?

[chadbrochillington]

ArticulateEric, on 09 May 2012 - 03:18 PM, said:

What sounds sour about Spangled's melody?

"god must want me next to you there" hits my ears in an awkward way. Weird note choices more than anything else.

[marquisinspades]

Reading this list reminds me why I don't post much.

Just because we all love the Pumpkins doesn't mean we are not very different.

500 odd songs to choose from and some people ACTUALLY have these songs on their lists:

XYU
Ode to no one
Tales of a scorched earth
Mouths of babes
Marquis in spades

<Laughs> Are you trolling??????

<Tapping microphone> Is this on? Hello?!! Anybody there? Yes,this is a ROCK band. I know sometimes it's hard to remember based on some recent material.

To me it's just weird. It's bit like posting 'Ermmmm this is a bit noisy' on a Ministry or MM forum.

People are strange...

[oryann]

marquisinspades, on 10 May 2012 - 02:27 AM, said:

Reading this list reminds me why I don't post much.

Just because we all love the Pumpkins doesn't mean we are not very different.

500 odd songs to choose from and some people ACTUALLY have these songs on their lists:

XYU
Ode to no one
Tales of a scorched earth
Mouths of babes
Marquis in spades

<Laughs> Are you trolling??????

<Tapping microphone> Is this on? Hello?!! Anybody there? Yes,this is a ROCK band. I know sometimes it's hard to remember based on some recent material.

To me it's just weird. It's bit like posting 'Ermmmm this is a bit noisy' on a Ministry or MM forum.

People are strange...

I understand where you're coming from, but SP is more than just a 'rock' band. Billy is an incredibly prolific songwriter and their ability to translate imagery and poetry into soundscapes is unreal. I really love some of the 'rocking' songs, like Jellybelly, God, XYU, Zero... and Geek USA (IMO, one of their most intense, heavy songs) is one of my favorite SP songs.

However, some of the ones you listed, while they are great too, are just on the lower end of my love for the band. I personally prefer their more 'colorful,' heartfelt songs. That's why Adore and MCIS are tied for my favorite record.

[marquisinspades]

oryann, on 10 May 2012 - 06:24 AM, said:

I understand where you're coming from, but SP is more than just a 'rock' band. Billy is an incredibly prolific songwriter and their ability to translate imagery and poetry into soundscapes is unreal. I really love some of the 'rocking' songs, like Jellybelly, God, XYU, Zero... and Geek USA (IMO, one of their most intense, heavy songs) is one of my favorite SP songs.

However, some of the ones you listed, while they are great too, are just on the lower end of my love for the band. I personally prefer their more 'colorful,' heartfelt songs. That's why Adore and MCIS are tied for my favorite record.

Totally fair of course. We all have a different slant which is why this forum fascinates me.

I would still say; even is someone reeally didn't like XYU there must be 11 other songs you like even less - surely right? Why would anyone who like MCIS quote a load of tracks off MCIS as liking them least?

How, in any sane world, could anyone like these tracks less than songs about widows and tom-toms? :rant:/> (thats a mock rant)

[Gr3g3]

*Opens thread* *See's Thirty-Three listed* *closes thread*

[nasalscarecrow]

Dontgetangryitsjustagame, on 09 May 2012 - 12:05 PM, said:

Real Love

NOOOOOOOOO!!!

[ItsSoPringles]

marquisinspades, on 10 May 2012 - 02:27 AM, said:

XYU
Ode to no one
Tales of a scorched earth
Mouths of babes
Marquis in spades

<Laughs> Are you trolling??????

they probably just dont like screaming

[oryann]

marquisinspades, on 10 May 2012 - 07:59 AM, said:

Totally fair of course. We all have a different slant which is why this forum fascinates me.

I would still say; even is someone reeally didn't like XYU there must be 11 other songs you like even less - surely right? Why would anyone who like MCIS quote a load of tracks off MCIS as liking them least?

How, in any sane world, could anyone like these tracks less than songs about widows and tom-toms? :rant:/> (thats a mock rant)

haha I know exactly what you mean. The only reason I personally didn't list too many 'reformation' songs is because I knew it'd make my whole list. In fact, it'd just be a mix of my least fav TBK/ZG songs. I just wanted to point out the songs from the old catalog that I find myself listening to the least, or that mean the least to me.

But yeah, I can agree with you on that most of that lol.

[Feriluce]

Gr3g3, on 10 May 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

*Opens thread* *See's Thirty-Three listed* *closes thread*

I know, I totally forgot about about my complaints about Marquis when I saw Thirty-Three on here haha.

[RottingApples]

There's no shame in listing post 2007 material, even if it comprises most/ all of your list. If that's the SP material shittiest in your eyes and ears, then it's the shittiest.

[Dontgetangryitsjustagame]

RottingApples, on 08 May 2012 - 03:01 PM, said:

2. Jesus Needs a Hit - FOL in acoustic form. The lyrics are trite and sound like a 14 year old writing his first song (Jesus needs a hit/ you can't even quit...)

So why are Bye June or Towers of Rabble not on the list? Come on. If the song were done with a lively and interesting delivery, no one would care how shitty the lyrics were.

[RottingApples]

Dontgetangryitsjustagame, on 13 May 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:

So why are Bye June or Towers of Rabble not on the list? Come on. If the song were done with a lively and interesting delivery, no one would care how shitty the lyrics were.

Towers of Rabble has some of my favorite lyrics in it, "take some time to thank the souls for all their emptiness/ upon the fever dreams of distant sons and daughters dressed for ransoms, for never". Sure, some of the other lyrics may be a bit simplistic, but it just goes to show that (as you said), with a bit more conviction behind the delivery, even the most lyrically repetitive/ simplistic songs can be engaging and memorable. Bye June, well, that probably wouldn't be too far down from 11, to be honest. I just consider the 11 I listed to be inferior to it (but not by much).

[themadcaplaughs]

1. Tales of a Scorched Earth: not a bad stand alone song, but Billy's distorted vocals are way too over the top and I can think of a handful of other songs that would have worked just as well in this position on the album.
2. The Boy: Anything Iha is involved in by himself, be it his solo work or his songs with Smashing Pumpkins are very hit or miss for me. This is just an embarrassment in every sense of the word, and the band was right to relegate this to B-Side status. There is a reason Billy is the primary songwriter.
3. The Bells: See above (love Iha to death as a guitarist and his contributions to Billy's songs, but his songwriting output from this era was just embarassing).
4. My Blue Heaven: No real reason I do not like this, just a Smashing Pumpkins tune I consistently skip.
5. Tear: I know I should love this song. It seems to be the centerpiece upon which the whole album is built, and the mellotron is beautiful, but this song just DRAGS in my opinion. Probably the only song from Adore that I feel really got elevated by its live performances.
6. The Sacred + Profane: Once more, not a bad song, but I can think of many other songs that would have fit well at this place on the album. I also just consider it one of the most boring and pedestrian songs of the original band's output.
7. Innosense: Mainly the same reasons as above, and Billy's voice really grates on me in this one.
8. In My Body: So damn long and meandering. I love Machina II, but the album ends on a complete whimper and this is where I feel the album loses its bite.
9. Death From Above: I have tried to love this song in every incarnation its had. Before I bought Zeitgeist, every review I read on the Internet claimed this was the best of the bonus tracks. Since I bought the special "book" edition of Zeitgeist I had to wait for the "Tarantula" single to come in the mail to hear this supposedly awesome SP gem. And...I loathed it. Billy's voice is absolutely annoying and this sounds like some kind of 8-bit nonsense. Even the acoustic version from the residenceis fails to make me feel anything
10. Superchrist: One riff...over....and over...and over...yes Jimmy's drums are freakin' amazing, but that does not change the fact that there is absolutely no substance to this song. "United States" is a pretty similar track, but it feels like it has a purpose. This sounds like the kind of riffing a high school band with access to a Guitar Center would play and post on MySpace.

This post has been edited by themadcaplaughs: 14 May 2012 - 08:10 PM

[mkoasis]

What is this FOL song that everybody is listing?

[davidp2007]

mkoasis, on 14 May 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

What is this FOL song that everybody is listing?

This. It was recorded during the Zeitgeist sessions I believe. It's not on any release, it was just featured in a car commercial:

[frednirv632]

themadcaplaughs, on 14 May 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:

9. Death From Above: ...Billy's voice is absolutely annoying and this sounds like some kind of 8-bit nonsense...

I lol every time:

[blanket_skies]

RottingApples, on 14 May 2012 - 07:28 AM, said:

Towers of Rabble has some of my favorite lyrics in it, "take some time to thank the souls for all their emptiness/ upon the fever dreams of distant sons and daughters dressed for ransoms, for never".

A Fucking men. In fact I would probably say Towers of Rabble is my favorite pumpkins song lyrically and I was simply appalled that someone would imply it has terrible lyrics.


I mean I think the lines "Be yourself, don't be yourself, speak your mind, don't speak you're mind" are pure genius and to me speak of the duality in society how people always say "be yourself" be the message of society actually constantly tells you to be like everyone else (whether they were intended that way or not). And yes the "take some time to thank the souls for all their emptiness" is pure brilliance. As I said my favorite song lyrically.

frednirv632, on 15 May 2012 - 02:43 AM, said:

I lol every time:

I love death from Above, I think it's an awesome song, particularly the acoustic version which is just beautiful. However I will admit that the first time I heard it, I thought "This song would be big in japan" because it does have that cheesiness quality that the Japanese seem to love. I still think it's a good song though.

This post has been edited by blanket_skies: 15 May 2012 - 02:55 PM

[JSapp]

ItsSoPringles, on 11 May 2012 - 06:39 AM, said:

they probably just dont like screaming

Thank you.

[frednirv632]

blanket_skies, on 15 May 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

I mean I think the lines "Be yourself, don't be yourself, speak your mind, don't speak you're mind" are pure genius ...

genius?

[chrisothoulos]

WWMM
Bleeding the Orchid
Lily
The Crying Tree of Mercury
For God and Country
Because You Are
Take me down


thats all i got right now

[chrisothoulos]

chadbrochillington, on 01 May 2012 - 01:49 PM, said:

Sacred and Profane drums sound synthetic and strange, yes, but Superchrist sounds like he's using a plastic trash can lid for a snare. All this is a matter of preference anyhow.

Ever hear the St. Anger album by Metallica? Those are trash can lids.

[SufferMyDesire]

1. Widow Wake My Mind (Screw this song. Probably the only Pumpkins song that I hate. Worthless songwriting, terrible production, and one of the few times Billy's vocals annoy me. Also gave me a bad impression of Mike, hes a much better drummer than this song shows)

2. G.L.O.W. (Ok, forget what I said up there. I kinda hate this song. Decent chorus, but the verses and everything else are pretty bad.)

3. Bring the Light (I'm a bit of a Zeitgeist apologist, but it's second half is definitely not that good. This song is part of that. It's got some cool parts instrumentally, but it's so cheesy)

4. Come on, Let's Go! (See above.)

5. The Imploding Voice (Probably the most annoying song the original lineup had. It's a riff driven song featuring one of Corgan's worst riffs. The synthy part in the background is cool, but this song is pretty skippable if you ask me.)

This is getting hard...

6. We Only Come Out At Night (Sometimes it seems weird and boring to me, but it carries a certain charm about it that keeps me from skipping it most of the time).

7. Astral Planes (Love the guitars, and the dark, psychedelic atmosphere, but the lyrics and vocals are terrible, save for the "fall away light" part)

8. To Forgive (Ok, this is a good song, without a doubt. It's just, I'm not sure I'd miss it all that much if it were dropped from Mellon Collie...)

9. Heavy Metal Machine (Great song ruined by terrible production. What a shame, that riff is killer.)

10. Sweet, Sweet (Yes, it's pretty, and I'm glad it's on Siamese Dream, but whenever I wanna say that Siamese Dream is PERFECT, as in EVERY SONG is a 10/10 masterpiece, this one has to come and frustrate me. I like it much more when I just accept it as a pretty, dreamy, filler track that isn't meant to compete with Soma, Mayo, and Geek USA)

11. God and Country (I used to love this song, now I just think its okay. I really don't wanna put it here, but can't justify puttying anything else there.)

Made a rule not to put up b-sides. Though, a few would make this list. That being said, even more would make my 11 favorite SP songs list....

[blanket_skies]

frednirv632, on 15 May 2012 - 05:14 PM, said:

genius?

well in the context of the song, maybe meaningful is a better term, but you know what I mean

[TalkingHead]

Why do so many of you fucks hate The Crying Tree of Mercury? :whattodo:/>

[LostSoul]

THANK YOU! Finally, a defender. That song is so beautiful. The lyrics & vocals sound like he ripped his own heart out and set it on fire.

But hey, its a boring song. Right?

[chrisothoulos]

TalkingHead, on 15 May 2012 - 10:51 PM, said:

Why do so many of you fucks hate The Crying Tree of Mercury? :whattodo:/>

good lyrics but the music just bores me.

[RottingApples]

blanket_skies, on 15 May 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

A Fucking men. In fact I would probably say Towers of Rabble is my favorite pumpkins song lyrically and I was simply appalled that someone would imply it has terrible lyrics.

I mean I think the lines "Be yourself, don't be yourself, speak your mind, don't speak you're mind" are pure genius and to me speak of the duality in society how people always say "be yourself" be the message of society actually constantly tells you to be like everyone else (whether they were intended that way or not). And yes the "take some time to thank the souls for all their emptiness" is pure brilliance. As I said my favorite song lyrically.

:cheers:/> Indeed, sir. Indeed.

[TalkingHead]

LostSoul, on 16 May 2012 - 02:29 AM, said:

THANK YOU! Finally, a defender. That song is so beautiful. The lyrics & vocals sound like he ripped his own heart out and set it on fire.

But hey, its a boring song. Right?

chrisothoulos, on 16 May 2012 - 07:15 AM, said:

good lyrics but the music just bores me.

The Crying Tree of Mercury has the most excruciating, viciously pained lyrics and vocals of any SP song (in my opinion); I can understand people finding the music "boring" (I don't), but enough to warrant it being in the top 11 least favourites of MULTIPLE PEOPLE? C'moooooon.

[TalkingHead]

11) Bullet With Butterfly Wings : Everytime I hear this song, I want to slit my wrists. It's not that it's a bad song. It's just that it's an overrated, overplayed mess. "THE WORLD IS A VAMPIRE." Sure is, Billy.
10) FOL : I don't think I need to justify this, but... no. I don't need to justify this. What a laughable shitpiece.
9) Spangled : It's not even that I think this song is that bad. I mean, it's bad. But I'm most frustrated by people actually thinking it's good, or even acceptable.
8) A Song for a Son : The title should be "A Song for a Son I Aborted." It tries to be haunting and deep or whatever, but it's not. And Billy's voice on this song makes me want to blow my fucking brains out.
7) For God and Country : Billy's God and country should exile him for this mess. It marks the beginning of weak lyrics and I'm Not Trying Anymore music. "MY SOUL IS SO ALIVE." Doesn't sound like it.
6) Bleeding the Orchid : I just don't like this song. It's like being felt up by your first cousin. I have never experienced this, but I'm absolutely sure that's a fair comparison.
5) (Come On) Let's Go : ...Jump Off a Bridge.
4) Pox : The worst thing is, this could maybe have been a good song, if the lyrics were spruced up and the music was written by someone else.
3) The Rose March : Is this even Smashing Pumpkins?!
2) Try, Try, Try alternate versions : When you get a song Good Enough the first time around, you don't have to keep tweaking it. Write something else.
1) Once in a Lifetime cover : FUCK YOU FOR YOUR "ARTIST'S INTERPRETATION" OF AN ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIC SONG, Billy Corgan. You have disappointed greatly. Try harder next time.

This was a lot easier than I thought it'd be.

chrisothoulos, on 15 May 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

Ever hear the St. Anger album by Metallica? Those are trash can lids.

:lol:/> Laughter aside, St Anger was the most disappointing fucking mess of WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO MY EARS I've ever. I mean, what were they thinking?! They weren't. They obviously weren't and they should burn in hell for that. Yes, entire band of Metallica, you are SOME KIND OF MONSTER. But they followed it up with Death Magnetic (my second favourite Metallica album PERIOD) and that makes up for all the shit St Anger was. If only all bands could do this... [hint hint]

I forgot Widow Wake My Mind in my top 11! I'd almost forgotten Widow Wake My Mind entirely, but I fear I shall never be so lucky.

This post has been edited by TalkingHead: 16 May 2012 - 08:51 AM

[themadcaplaughs]

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good lyrics but the music just bores me.

Not top 11 worst for me by any means, but the baby elephant noise at the beginning always makes me chuckle.

[TalkingHead]

You're a baby elephant.

[TwoHeadedBoy]

TwoHeadedBoy, on 30 April 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

Owata
Astral Planes
Here's to the Atom Bomb
Vanity
Raindrops + Sunshowers
Bullet with Butterfly Wings
Ugly
Pug
Doomsday Clock
FOL
G.L.O.W.

Owata - way too over produced. I don't hate the song, but it's unmemorable. The arrangement of the studio version borders on hilarious.
Astral Planes - I like the main riff, but it's 4 minutes of lazy psych-rock jamming that never takes off. Obviously, the lyrics and vocal melodies leave a lot to be desired.
Here's to the Atom Bomb - Boring closing song. The drum machine sounds corny. Musically unremarkable.
Vanity - Again, lacks any real melody. It just sort of plods along, like they're jamming out an IDEA for a song but haven't quite gotten anything memorable.
Raindrops + Sunshowers - WAYYYYY too long, and very monotone throughout musically. I don't mind the lyrics and vocal melody, but it's just a four minute onslaught of noise.
Bullet - I'd say this is probably their most standard rock song. It's not bad, but doesn't have any aspects that I love about the Pumpkins.
Ugly - Seems half baked, REALLY dislike the lyrics. Juvenile, teenage mopery.
Pug - Corny electronica that never takes off, but lasts almost 5 minutes.
Doomsday Clock - Slow and flaccid song that's destroyed by its slow tempo and horrific production. BC wanted to start Zeitgeist on a "fuck yeah, we're back!" note, but this song just fails desperately.
FOL - Passionless riff-rock, with no solid riffs. I don't mind the chorus, though.
G.L.O.W. - Loathsomely boring. A perfectly good riff is wasted by everything else being terrible.

This seems really harsh, but that's basically where my SP dislike ends, minus some ZG/TGBK era tracks.

[_Revolution_Blues]

I'm surprised by some peoples 11 worst songs, but each to their own and all that :scatch:/> also whats all the hate towards Take me down, i think its the best james iha song my a long shot, one of the best on MCIS (even though most songs are), yep thats right. :whattodo:/>

1. GLOW - decent riff ruined by crappy lyrics and cheese
2. Superchrist - the only SP song i've listened to that bores me to death
3. In my body - good but drags on too long, like someone else said
4. The everlasting gaze - still good but just doesn't 'fit' right for me on the album, the song doesn't sound like it suits the band
5. The imploding voice - boring and simple riff that keeps repeating, doesn't flow well
6. With every light - a good cheery song that is nice and fresh when listening through machina I, but again, doesn't 'fit'
7. Owata - just......why.......
8. Astral planes - again......why......
9. Bleeding the orchid - too many billys, just not a good song
10. Bring the light - as many people have said, so much cheese...
11. We only come out at night - just strange, another one that doesn't 'fit'

[TalkingHead]

Oh, shit. I also forgot such gems as GLOW and Superchrist. :nope:/>

[themadcaplaughs]

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You're a baby elephant.

Why thank you.

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Vanity - Again, lacks any real melody. It just sort of plods along, like they're jamming out an IDEA for a song but haven't quite gotten anything memorable.

Have to argue with you on that one. I see it as one of the greatest gems of the Machina era.

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Ugly - Seems half baked, REALLY dislike the lyrics. Juvenile, teenage mopery.

Although I will agree the lyrics are almost embarrassingly juvenile, Billy's delivery saves it and I just think it's a haunting song.

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Pug - Corny electronica that never takes off, but lasts almost 5 minutes.

In my opinion, the only highlight of the middle section of Adore.

[paco5005]

I'll change my list, as I've found that many songs I hadn't listened to in a long time, after listening to them today I liked them.

1) Because You Are (no explanation needed)
2) Scorched Earth (not that I don;t like it, it's just it's one of the songs I like the least :] )
3) Honeyspider (no words)
4) Crying Tree
5) Czarina

~~SAVING THE BEST FOR THE SECOND HALF!!!! (coughsarcasmcough)
6) Owata (TbK version)
7) Widow Wake My Mind (...)
8) Starz (what the fuck is that song)
9) Come on (Let's Go) (Why would anyone ever find this song appealing...)
10) Bleeding the Orchid (........... (...) )
11) For God and Country (remember that time when SP apologized for having Bush as their president? well, that)

[areyougaffney]

goes to show how subjective music is, when after scrolling down the last page of this thread I find 33, spangled, sweet sweet, pomp and circumstance. 4 of my favourite songs.
the boy and ugly are mentioned too, which I think are both awesome.

www.cdbaby.com/samlawrance3