[Drevpile]

Fernando, on 28 April 2012 - 06:32 AM, said:

More iconic because the first time you look at it, it has more impact. And that will make you remember it easily and identify it anywhere you see it again.

It doesn't mean Oceania's a bad or ugly cover, but it doesn't have the same impact as all those other pumpkins cover have.

Yep. It's weak.

[oryann]

Still loving this cover. It's very bleak but very very pretty. Which is really what Oceania the song is. Definitely holds the isolation factor BC said about..

[nasalscarecrow]

I reckon the artwork will look good vinyl size.

[_Revolution_Blues]

I like it, a lot.
I was expecting TbK artwork, but this is better. Can't wait for the album even more now :D/>

[MaxR]

http://www.flickr.co...nlim/499556285/

Ummmm, what? idk. I just say that pop up in the smashing pumpkins tag on tumblr...

[Deleted User Account]

_Revolution_Blues, on 28 April 2012 - 08:14 AM, said:

I like it, a lot.
I was expecting TbK artwork, but this is better. Can't wait for the album even more now :D/>

This is an album within an album with absolutely no connection to that album.

[Simon Belmont]

Found this comment to Nicole on Facebook: " Oh Nicole, the cover artwork is absolutely STUNNING!!!!! It just makes me even more anxious for the music. Of course, you can't judge a "book" by its cover but if this is any indication of the musical quality, I think we will all be in for something outstanding."

https://devcentral.f5.com/weblogs/images/devcentral_f5_com/weblogs/macvittie/WindowsLiveWriter/UsersuseApplications.ApplicationsuseClo_372A/DoubleFacePalm_thumb.jpg


Jesus fucking christ. It's not a bad album cover, but let's calm the fuck down here.

[ShamanO]

lol. doesn't the album ocver give you a big ? as to what's inside? maybe there won't be anything inside but more tree pistures? will we ever know what's inside the tower? Or was that put there to always give you some sort of wonder for life?

[Simon Belmont]

It's not a tower. It's a giant obelisk. TBK connection found.

[mike401]

I want to know the track lengths. I just fear the end of Oceania being cut . . .

[ShamanO]

Simon Belmont, on 28 April 2012 - 09:01 AM, said:

It's not a tower. It's a giant obelisk. TBK connection found.

our obelisk didn't have windows or a doorway

[Gr3g3]

ShamanO, on 28 April 2012 - 08:56 AM, said:

lol. doesn't the album ocver give you a big ? as to what's inside? maybe there won't be anything inside but more tree pistures? will we ever know what's inside the tower? Or was that put there to always give you some sort of wonder for life?

Billy is in the tower, obviously.

[Simon Belmont]

ShamanO, on 28 April 2012 - 09:20 AM, said:

our obelisk didn't have windows or a doorway

I know. It's symbolic. I just solved the TBK mystery. :shocked:/>

[Matteo]

it doesn't matter. it's most likely the obelisk. the tbk obelisk probably represents this "real" tower in the oceania cover, and it all means something. we'll find out.

[Simon Belmont]

:rofl:/> Holy shit, I was just kidding. Now look what I've started.

[Matteo]

well it makes sense doesn't it

[Fernando]

No, because it's not even a random tower, it's a lighthouse. Oceania... island... ocean... lighthouse.

[ShamanO]

strange..where is the big flashy light of the lighthouse then?

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[GracefulSwan]

I'm quite impressed with the cover, I was expecting far worse after the TBK artwork.

[Fernando]

In older times, the lighthouse emited light from a fire, not from an electric light. That's probably an old lighthouse like this:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/DoverCastle-lighthouse-2004-10-03.jpg/450px-DoverCastle-lighthouse-2004-10-03.jpg

or this:

http://www.yorkshire-guide.co.uk/images/flamborough/old_lighthouse.jpg

[ShamanO]

oh ok...kind of has a fancy "steeple" on top of it

hmm and in his classic rock interview he said

Quote

isolation seems to be the theme. Oceania- there's something about the idea of being an island, or being an astronaut. a sense of displacement.

so where does the astronaut space stuff fit in? maybe he has skipped that and it's just ocean/island related now.

[Matteo]

good catch fernando.

[bosmanad]

I absolutely LOVE the cover art. Can't wait to see and hear it all.

It looks like a lighthouse to me. I like the ambiguity. Cool colors and wise type choice in my opinion.

[Martine Castonguay]

ShamanO, on 28 April 2012 - 09:57 AM, said:

so where does the astronaut space stuff fit in? maybe he has skipped that and it's just ocean/island related now.

Within, do you never feel like as being far in your own space?

[ShamanO]

sure, but that astronaut/space reference he is spoke about doesn't exactly fit the cover. however the song quasar shows that part I guess.

[Dusty]

Oceania looks a lot like either the American Gothic cover or the Pisces Iscariot tape. A fairly natural evolution I think, and it looks more like the reissue covers than the original. Maybe it's iconic in that it looks markedly subdued compared to the other mainstream Pumpkins albums. Kind of like the White Album. Actually, it looks a lot like a Floyd cover. Like Umagamanuma.

[Fernando]

ShamanO, on 28 April 2012 - 10:32 AM, said:

sure, but that astronaut/space reference he is spoke about doesn't exactly fit the cover. however the song quasar shows that part I guess.

It was just an example of isolation, I think. He could use a diver instead... that would make "more sense":

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-APSU0O7614k/ThdyH1haHpI/AAAAAAAAAb4/T7Rwx_P473Q/s1600/deep_sea_diver.jpg

[Simon Belmont]

http://www.filmonpaper.com/site/media/2011/02/FindingNemo_quad_advance-1-500x374.jpg

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[ShamanO]

Fernando, on 28 April 2012 - 10:41 AM, said:

It was just an example of isolation, I think. He could use a diver instead... that would make "more sense":

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-APSU0O7614k/ThdyH1haHpI/AAAAAAAAAb4/T7Rwx_P473Q/s1600/deep_sea_diver.jpg

definitely,however sometimes he just doesn't always come off making 100% sense right away, maybe we will figure that "sense" part out once we have the album. :shrug:/> right now somethings make sense and somethings just don't

[KingBelteshazzar]

manuglass, on 27 April 2012 - 11:25 PM, said:

Loving the cover, I think I like it more than most Pumpkins covers. For me, the best artwork to date is Machina, but for the inside paintings and the old looking paper rather than the cover.

I agree that Machina has the best art-work, over all. Hands down. :cheers:/>

[V_____]

Dusty, on 28 April 2012 - 10:36 AM, said:

Oceania looks a lot like either the American Gothic cover or the Pisces Iscariot tape. A fairly natural evolution I think, and it looks more like the reissue covers than the original. Maybe it's iconic in that it looks markedly subdued compared to the other mainstream Pumpkins albums. Kind of like the White Album. Actually, it looks a lot like a Floyd cover. Like Umagamanuma.

I dunno. The American Gothic cover is probably their worst one in my opinion. This is way way more interesting than that.

[rosenkreuzer]

thank you for reminding us at the american gothic cover. we almost forgot it. :drama:/>

[BitterRootOfSelf]

I'm glad they got rid of the people mover part after quasar cuz that was just dumb. I knew sp would make the right move there

[ChrisHill]

Simon Belmont, on 28 April 2012 - 09:30 AM, said:

:rofl:/> Holy shit, I was just kidding. Now look what I've started.

You should know better than to hint to this crowd that there is some sort of deeper meaning behind something that Billy Corgan does. This is the same group that tries to predict when things will be released based on numerology.

Chris Hill

[Gr3g3]

Shaman's got way to many questions. It's just a picture! hahahha.

[ShamanO]

well if I didn't ask questions you people would just be on a ooh i like it or oooh I dont like it and the thread wouldn't be much more than Cam's addition...

ponder or just be a bore. hmm maybe bore is the right answer for this.

[.absof.]

This got me thinking about their other album covers. I think we should start new threads to discuss them all. We'll start with Pisces Iscariot; What does the green and yellow represent? Why is the bottom right-hand corner really dark? What's the symbolism?

[rosenkreuzer]

it's billys tea-house. basta.

[ShamanO]

.absof., on 28 April 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

This got me thinking about their other album covers. I think we should start new threads to discuss them all. We'll start with Pisces Iscariot; What does the green and yellow represent? Why is the bottom right-hand corner really dark? What's the symbolism?

heh. :rolleyes:/>

[Dusty]

Hahaha I actually really liked Quasar/Stella Polaris and the People Mover as the title. I think it had a very good prog sense of humor, almost like some of the Mellon Collie tracks specifically, but also a lot of the Pumpkins work (Mellon Collie and the Infinite Saddness, Cupid de Locke, Set the Ray to Jerry, Starz, naming your band The Smashing Pumpkins! hahaha...) The fact that the song kicks ass would have just made its name more hillariously awesome.

Anyways, I think it's cool the art looks different from album to album. I would hate for Billy to have the same artist design each cover, like Radiohead does. I consider it part of his growth and journy.

[DrownPumpkin]

The astronaut reference was giving an example of isolation...

The astronaut reference was giving an example of isolation...

[Fire Dragon]

DandyJon, on 02 May 2011 - 12:25 PM, said:

99 Floors would be nice, if only....

Hell yeah, didn't they do a cracking version of this on the Chris Isaak show? :scatch:/> Or maybe it was Sunkissed...?

[Lunatic]

Fire Dragon, on 28 April 2012 - 09:23 PM, said:

Hell yeah, didn't they do a cracking version of this on the Chris Isaak show? :scatch:/> Or maybe it was Sunkissed...?

Both!

[RottingApples]

Fernando, on 28 April 2012 - 06:32 AM, said:

More iconic because the first time you look at it, it has more impact. And that will make you remember it easily and identify it anywhere you see it again.

It doesn't mean Oceania's a bad or ugly cover, but it doesn't have the same impact as all those other pumpkins cover have.

I would think if anything makes Zeitgeist "iconic" it's a connotation to the album that's essentially infamous in Pumpkin circles. SP fans see it and there's a knee-jerk reaction toward liking it or outright hating it. I'd say as far as having any kind of impact, one would have to wait until Oceania has been out and digested to see if there's any impact to be had.