[Fernando]

http://iamkoream.com...ocks-the-books/

Something about Oceania:

“So far everybody we’ve played it for has been pleasantly shocked. I don’t think people really thought the band could make something this good,” Jeff beams. He hints that Oceania won’t be as heavy as past efforts, “In this day and age, with what’s going on politically and socially, it just feels right to play something that’s a little more spacey and dreamy. We want music to move people on an emotional level.”

And about the band:

“When I first joined the band, it was really awkward,” admits Jeff, who found himself tiptoeing through 20 years of baggage between Billy and Jimmy. “I understood it was definitely going to be more of a professional thing. A true friendship [with Billy] grew over years. Going through things like Jimmy leaving and playing hundreds of shows together and going through the ups and downs of being in a band. And through the consistency of being there for each other, we’ve actually developed a very true and real friendship.

[frosty]

awww. how sweet. :happy:/> he's like chocolate pudding.

[Rocket_Baby_Dolls]

"Jeff Schroeder is no James Iha, the original guitarist for The Smashing Pumpkins. He’s better. Yeah, I said it. He can actually hang musically with Billy Corgan, the tortured genius behind the Pumpkins’ signature guitar- heavy sound. Other ways Jeff isn’t James: Jeff isn’t Japanese American. He’s biracial—Korean and Caucasian. Jeff didn’t drop out of college like James; in fact, he’s finishing his Ph.D. in comparative literature at UCLA. And Jeff, unlike James, is actually on speaking terms with Billy."

This interviewer couldn't suck more cock if she tried!...

[Fernando]

He's right.

[Arachnea]

Rocket_Baby_Dolls, on 08 November 2011 - 05:29 PM, said:

"Jeff Schroeder is no James Iha, the original guitarist for The Smashing Pumpkins. He’s better. Yeah, I said it. He can actually hang musically with Billy Corgan, the tortured genius behind the Pumpkins’ signature guitar- heavy sound. Other ways Jeff isn’t James: Jeff isn’t Japanese American. He’s biracial—Korean and Caucasian. Jeff didn’t drop out of college like James; in fact, he’s finishing his Ph.D. in comparative literature at UCLA. And Jeff, unlike James, is actually on speaking terms with Billy."

This interviewer couldn't suck more cock if she tried!...

Yes, that part of the interview was completely unnecessary. I do not see why someone cannot speak well of the new members without tearing down the old ones. It truly marred an otherwise decent interview with Jeff.

[MonteLDS]

nice to see a Jeff interview

[BlueSkiesBringTears]

But all those things are true! :p/>

[R_Dorothy Wayneright]

Hey! That bit about James dropping out of college was uncalled for! It was a good decision.



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Rocket_Baby_Dolls, on 08 November 2011 - 05:29 PM, said:

"Jeff Schroeder is no James Iha, the original guitarist for The Smashing Pumpkins. He’s better. Yeah, I said it. He can actually hang musically with Billy Corgan, the tortured genius behind the Pumpkins’ signature guitar- heavy sound. Other ways Jeff isn’t James: Jeff isn’t Japanese American. He’s biracial—Korean and Caucasian. Jeff didn’t drop out of college like James; in fact, he’s finishing his Ph.D. in comparative literature at UCLA. And Jeff, unlike James, is actually on speaking terms with Billy."

This interviewer couldn't suck more cock if she tried!...

What a bunch of horseshit that is.

If you guys think it's lame for people to bring up the past to negate the new band, then it's just as wrong to deride the old band (and the individuals therein) in hopes of legitimizing these new members.

[oryann]

I hate that people feel the new members can't stand on their own. Why the fuck do you have to drag Iha in the dirt to make Jeff seem great? You really don't, and it's just becoming childish. Good interview, but the interviewer kinda deserves a bitchslap for that one :nope:/>

[Magus]

awesome interview, thanks! glad to see some interviews with the other band members finally

[serotoninsage]

just journalistic sensationalism at play. you gotta write that kind of way to keep your job when you're a piece of crap just trying to get by.

i wish Jeff would do more interviews...

[AlienCloak]

What took so long for that to come out though. That interview was done before the Wiltern show.

[vescret]

damnit....that kills my "jeff is a machine" idea

[thorazine]

Good interview. The rips on james were uncalled for, but i think they held some merit.
Jeff impresses me. I like his ethic, and love for he band. something i've never seen out of a SP member past or present.

[R_Dorothy Wayneright]

Haha thorazine, what a great username and avatar for this forum.

[thorazine]

thx!

[ShamanO]

AlienCloak, on 08 November 2011 - 10:50 PM, said:

What took so long for that to come out though. That interview was done before the Wiltern show.

editing, mixing, mastering? :whattodo:/>

pretty good interview :)/> they have bonded awwww

[mayday27]

Old band vs new band is like 5th grader drama. Its immature, unprofessional and will not make people appreciate you more. They should just speak to their own work and not drag other people through the mud. Especially people who are the bricks of the foundation of what is now. It is so tasteless.

This kind of stuff is what will bring moral for the new stuff down. But oh well....,

[ItsSoPringles]

“I think they expect Billy to be sitting there telling everybody what to do and how to do it, and we’re sitting there actually joking around and getting along after months of being in the same building for 12 hours a day"

this was good to hear

the interview was great but that part at the start was uncalled for

[Fernando]

He didn't say James is bad, he said Jeff is BETTER. And he is.

[dudehitscar]

james wrote believe, the boy, said sadly, blew away, go, etc

I think his contributions to the pumpkins legacy are only outmatched by Jimmy and Billy. No one else comes close. You could easily say that Nicole is better than Darcy but until Jeff starts making larger contributions I don't see how anyone can place him over Iha.

If you are just talking about guitar skills that's fine... but I hate how everyone seems to ignore the fact that Iha actually wrote and sang great songs for the pumpkins.

[Sophie]

Rocket_Baby_Dolls, on 08 November 2011 - 05:29 PM, said:

... in fact, he’s finishing his Ph.D. in comparative literature at UCLA.

Oh my god he hasn't defended his thesis yet and he's on stage with the Pumkins every night :jawdropper:/> ! When I had to defend mine I hardly had a life !
(it was in 2008 which is why I kinda missed the zeigeist era tours)

vescret, on 08 November 2011 - 10:53 PM, said:

damnit....that kills my "jeff is a machine" idea

:happy:/> For the reasons aforementioned I think this proves on the contrary that the man is a machine. B|/>

R_Dorothy Wayneright, on 08 November 2011 - 08:23 PM, said:

Hey! That bit about James dropping out of college was uncalled for! It was a good decision.

Exactly ! Not everyone is supposed to have a University education. This doesn't mean that the people who don't are crap, and this is an assistant professor speaking here ! I see so many students who should honestly not waste their time in college.

And oh, I don't remember Billy going to college either but look what he has achieved !... :bow:/>

[pastup]

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I stress their differences to make a larger point: This ain’t the ’90s anymore. And it would behoove fans to remember that

[DandyJon]

Good interview, Jeff is awesome.

[breathesgelatin]

AlienCloak, on 08 November 2011 - 10:50 PM, said:

What took so long for that to come out though. That interview was done before the Wiltern show.

It's a monthly magazine, so this is their first issue since the Wiltern show.

[Bountiful_Wasteland]

No one realized this is a Korean magazine and James is Japanese? (hint hint: it's not just about new vs.old band) http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/board_new/public/style_emoticons/default/coy.gif

[mayday27]

Do you see how the arguement of James vs Jeff is taking away from what could have been all about what Jeff is doing? The perpetual animosity is clearly not a benefit.

[lemonscure]

dudehitscar, on 09 November 2011 - 07:09 AM, said:

james wrote believe, the boy, said sadly, blew away, go, etc

I think his contributions to the pumpkins legacy are only outmatched by Jimmy and Billy. No one else comes close. You could easily say that Nicole is better than Darcy but until Jeff starts making larger contributions I don't see how anyone can place him over Iha.

If you are just talking about guitar skills that's fine... but I hate how everyone seems to ignore the fact that Iha actually wrote and sang great songs for the pumpkins.

This.

[AlienCloak]

dudehitscar, on 09 November 2011 - 07:09 AM, said:

I think his contributions to the pumpkins legacy are only outmatched by Jimmy and Billy.

No shit, they did everything.

[Simon]

mayday27, on 09 November 2011 - 11:29 AM, said:

Do you see how the arguement of James vs Jeff is taking away from what could have been all about what Jeff is doing? The perpetual animosity is clearly not a benefit.

The question is: would this thread get as many responses without it. Probably not. Credibility vs. hits. The ongoing torment.

ArticulateEric, on 08 November 2011 - 09:03 PM, said:

What a bunch of horseshit that is.

If you guys think it's lame for people to bring up the past to negate the new band, then it's just as wrong to deride the old band (and the individuals therein) in hopes of legitimizing these new members.

Absolutely.

[mayday27]

I think an article about Jeff can create interest on it's own just as much as dramatic bullshit. He seems like an interesting person and talented. Always a nice combination. The limiting factor is that he somehow does not enjoy interviews? A real shame. I was interested when I saw that he did an interview.

If I read more stuff about old band vs new band type bend I have to say my interest goes way down. I have no interest in it. Does zero.

[BlueSkiesBringTears]

ArticulateEric, on 08 November 2011 - 09:03 PM, said:

What a bunch of horseshit that is.

If you guys think it's lame for people to bring up the past to negate the new band, then it's just as wrong to deride the old band (and the individuals therein) in hopes of legitimizing these new members.

:shocked:/> *gasp* Bimbly steps in as a moderate, even-handed voice of reason. And shamed me. :blush:/>

dudehitscar, on 09 November 2011 - 07:09 AM, said:

james wrote believe, the boy, said sadly, blew away, go, etc

Nice songs. But would you agree that they stand apart from the rest of the catalog, and they're not exactly a Porcelina, Siva, Stand Inside Your Love, or Cherub Rock?

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I think his contributions to the pumpkins legacy are only outmatched by Jimmy and Billy.

Yes. Without them, James would have been standing there with songs like the ones you listed, and nothing else to play. Except the chord progressions for Soma and Mayonaise, but neither song's lyrics, dynamics, arrangement, or structure.

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You could easily say that Nicole is better than Darcy

I think Nicole's already written more bass parts than D'Arcy ever did. And Nicole definitely sings better.

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but until Jeff starts making larger contributions I don't see how anyone can place him over Iha.

It's hard to gauge, because most of the time, Jeff is still relegated to playing second fiddle (er, guitar...) to Billy. I mean, Billy plays 9 out of every 10 guitar solos or so. But I could make a considerable list of original parts, or tweaked part/arrangements, Jeff has done live...

[mayday27]

I don't Nicole is "better" than Darcy. She's good but the two are both very different. I kind of feel like Darcy had a stronger personality. Just try and replace her for the time period she filled...context and all

[noblegeorge]

Ive always like Jeff since he came into the band.....He doesnt shoot off his mouth, just supports each song perfectly and shines when necessary (I can think of Shame and Behold the Nightmare as two small examples). He just seems like a humble, unpretentious guy and he is a better guitarist than James, no doubt.

BUT, James was awesome in his own unique way and personally i was a big fan of his songs when i was getting into the band, Go and Blew Away were two of my favourites and they added a nice counterbalance to what billy provided. My theory was that James' ego was shattered by billy over the years, he probably felt put down one too many times and his creative side was shielded as a result. Im sure he couldve provided more material had billy allowed him the freedom to do so and they actually still got on, but alas, thats just not how it was meant to be and you cant really blame either of them for it.

Anyway, im in the Jeff is awesome and James is awesome camp....although i think i would probably get on better with Jeff! :cheers:/>

[Fernando]

dudehitscar, on 09 November 2011 - 07:09 AM, said:

james wrote believe, the boy, said sadly, blew away, go, etc

I think his contributions to the pumpkins legacy are only outmatched by Jimmy and Billy. No one else comes close. You could easily say that Nicole is better than Darcy but until Jeff starts making larger contributions I don't see how anyone can place him over Iha.

If you are just talking about guitar skills that's fine... but I hate how everyone seems to ignore the fact that Iha actually wrote and sang great songs for the pumpkins.

James was 10 years in the band and you can think about like 10 songs (most of them b-sides)? Those songs make him better than Jeff? I didn't think so.

mayday27, on 09 November 2011 - 11:29 AM, said:

Do you see how the arguement of James vs Jeff is taking away from what could have been all about what Jeff is doing? The perpetual animosity is clearly not a benefit.

That's why I didnt bring to the table. And actually the interviewr says why he's comparing the both of them:

"I stress their differences to make a larger point: This ain’t the ’90s anymore."

He's like quoting and making something from Jeff's words about how the band works now:

“I think people are shocked,” Jeff muses. “I think they expect Billy to be sitting there telling everybody what to do and how to do it, and we’re sitting there actually joking around and getting along after months of being in the same building for 12 hours a day. I think people are tripped out a little by it. ‘It’s not supposed to be like this. You’re supposed to hate each other.’”

So, yeah, people. It's a new band, a new spirit, a new way to make music. The hate and troubles in the old band had broken it up. The good feeling in this new band is creating something new.

[Parksey]

why does every Jeff thread turn into a Jeff vs James debate?

I agree with dudehitscar in any case.

[soonergiant65]

Here is where I stand. I don't care about the whole Jeff vs James crap. I'm just glad Billy was able to find a guy like Jeff, because the dude is good, really really good. :sp:/>

[dudehitscar]

Even if iha only wrote 1good song for the pumpkins that would make him better than Jeff. There are tons of guitar players that can just play along to what billy is doing.. Not many people could write a song as good as believe.

I'm happy with Jeff cause he seems like a great guy and Billy enjoys playing with him.. Beyond that I'm pretty neutral on him..

[thorazine]

most musicians write songs. im sure jeff has some things that we never will hear.
you have to remeber in the 90's it was all about the B-side "incentive" tracks, and billy figured he would just fill it with iha's junk songs.
blew away is good. but if you think the boy or the bells is better than what jeff brings, youre crazy.

[dudehitscar]

AlienCloak, on 09 November 2011 - 12:27 PM, said:

No shit, they did everything.

But they didn't write iha's songs.. What is your point?

thorazine, on 09 November 2011 - 05:55 PM, said:

most musicians write songs. im sure jeff has some things that we never will hear.
you have to remeber in the 90's it was all about the B-side "incentive" tracks, and billy figured he would just fill it with iha's junk songs.
blew away is good. but if you think the boy or the bells is better than what jeff brings, youre crazy.

Guess I'm crazy. The bells is a great song. What has Jeff done that is better?

[frosty]

little jeff, you will one day have to get to work with billy corgan.

http://blogs.babble.com/strollerderby/files/2009/11/baby-crying.png

:awk:/>

[thorazine]

dudehitscar, on 09 November 2011 - 06:26 PM, said:

Guess I'm crazy. The bells is a great song. What has Jeff done that is better?

Jeff's work on the Oceania tracks i heard/saw live on this tour is above and beyond "the bells" for certain.
Iha isn't a solo artist. Jeff isn't a solo artist. At least Jeff has enough sense to know he works better as a key component to a far superior machine (SP) than Iha can struggling to put out another snoozefest. the funny thing is, Iha "WAS" in Jeff's shoes before him, and obviously couldn't handle it. Don't take it out on Jeff because of James' FAIL.


that was easy, try again.

[orchidaii]

Aww, I feel bad for James :(/> He has really gone out of his way to remove himself from Pumpkinland and to not comment on band members. That interview with him up there was sweet - great questions were asked!

On another note, I should really work on my thesis paper x) I feel Jeff's pain!