[My Dear Delirious]

I want to buy one but I'm not sure which I should get. The numbered ones are said to be the best but they're so damned expensive. The unnumbered reissues are cheaper. Which should I get? Are there any other benefits to having the numbered ones vs. the unnumbered other than the fact that they're limited? I just want something that sounds great, if the unnumbered ones are just as good sound-wise then i would think that they would be my best bet, but is this the case? any help much appreciated. Thanks.

[Michael]

yea definitely get the white boxed ones. its a pretty rare album on vinyl and its cool knowing that you have the real one, not a fake

[Mayfair]

I want to buy one but I'm not sure which I should get. The numbered ones are said to be the best but they're so damned expensive. The unnumbered reissues are cheaper. Which should I get? Are there any other benefits to having the numbered ones vs. the unnumbered other than the fact that they're limited? I just want something that sounds great, if the unnumbered ones are just as good sound-wise then i would think that they would be my best bet, but is this the case? any help much appreciated. Thanks.

unnumbered weren't really reissues, they were pressed almost immediately after. and there is no loss in quality, unnumbered or numbered, they are both official releases by either Virgin or Hut. probably around 50,000 copies all told. not super limited obviously.

oh, and they havent made an official reissue press since 1996. so everything recent is all shitty bootlegs.

its a pretty rare album on vinyl

meh, 50K......

[Michael]

well rare compared to other vinyl SP albums, not including both Machinas and Pisces

[Mayfair]

sure, that i can agree with. but there are tons out there, available all the time.

[Michael]

it's just unfortunate that a large fraction tend to be bootlegs on ebay

[ElectricSun]

what happens when the bootleggers start using a white box too?

[Michael]

I have always been wondering that. I thank you for bringing that up.

[My Dear Delirious]

what happens when the bootleggers start using a white box too?

then the book of Revelation shall unfold before our very eyes

[CoolAsIceCream]

what happens when the bootleggers start using a white box too?

then it'll be a bit harder to explain what's a bootleg and what's real.

[Mayfair]

what happens when the bootleggers start using a white box too?

quality of the pieces and sleeves, and the pressing house engravings and matrix codes on the actual pieces.


http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?page=...TAILS&item=1100 OFFICIAL

http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?page=...TAILS&item=2117 BOOT


adding a white box wont fool anyone. the matrix codes are the tell tale. also, the fact that the sleeves are pieces of shit.

then it'll be a bit harder to explain what's a bootleg and what's real.

if the sleeves are good and the colors aren't bleeding, then you would have to crack it open to check the engravings i would imagine.

[CoolAsIceCream]

right now you can tell right away, even if the lower right corner, where the white box would be, is covered. the colours give it away.

but for now, the white box is the easiest way to check if a copy is a bootleg or not.

[Michael]

Wow, on ebay right now theres four real ones and only two fakes! Thats a new record! (hahaha, not intentionally a pun)

[CoolAsIceCream]

that's an unusual ratio, indeed.

if you're ever in doubt about a copy of the mcis 3lp on ebay, you can always post a link here, and i'll have a look. i've seen the fake copy next to the real deal, so i know what to look at.

[melissa]

what is the "white box" yall are talking about.?

[Michael]

on the bottom right hand corner of the front cover

[CoolAsIceCream]

the second pressing of the mcis vinyl also has the white box, but it's empty.
this makes it easy to spot bootlegs: the real thing has a white box, with or without number. the bootlegs don't have the white box.

[melissa]

ahhh got it! thanks!

[ZEN]

Hello, I have been noticing for example, my copy # 3721 has like a printing error about a third the way up the cover as does the one pictured from user Michael. It is like a white line from the front cover to the back cover, which is seen in the gals hand all the way to the back cover under the track listing of TWILIGHT I have noticed that later #ed post 5000 do not have this. Would some one care to elaborate on this? My copy does have all the correct info on the from the info page here, IE: matrix codes etc.

[frednirv632]

this thread will answer some of your questions:
http://www.smashingp...showtopic=18013

also, lol.

[CoolAsIceCream]

yeah, thanks for never getting back to me, zen. you rudio!

[ZEN]

CoolAsIceCream, on 12 February 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

yeah, thanks for never getting back to me, zen. you rudio!

Sorry Boss, I did not enable the receive email notice's on that thread (that I started) Again sorry icecream.

[wolfgang]

I am making decent money, now, and am finally ready to buy this. Does it pop up on eBay often?

[CoolAsIceCream]

yes.

[Sophie]

wolfgang, on 19 June 2012 - 10:43 PM, said:

I am making decent money, now, and am finally ready to buy this. Does it pop up on eBay often?

I bet there are at least five copies sold right now.
But when it comes to copies sold at a decent price... It's a totally different story.

[marquisinspades]

I keep longing for the vinyl but can never justify cost.

Any thoughts if premium price will drop following the reissue; or if this will have opposite effect, cause more interest and put price up even more?

[Sophie]

marquisinspades, on 20 June 2012 - 06:34 AM, said:

I keep longing for the vinyl but can never justify cost.

Any thoughts if premium price will drop following the reissue; or if this will have opposite effect, cause more interest and put price up even more?

Sadly I haven't seen the prices of SD and Gish first press vinyls go up nor down. Perhaps slightly down but nothing very noticeable. But those are not numbered, etc.

[ZEN]

wolfgang, on 19 June 2012 - 10:43 PM, said:

I am making decent money, now, and am finally ready to buy this. Does it pop up on eBay often?

Yeah they do, sometimes they seem scarce. But take your time, find a good one at a decent price. Use this forum to do any research to make sure it is authentic. Then buy it.

[CoolAsIceCream]

what do you want to pay for a copy?

[fredouille]

mine is a numbered original and I paid him less than 15€ :)/>

[wolfgang]

CoolAsIceCream, on 20 June 2012 - 11:01 PM, said:

what do you want to pay for a copy?

I'm ok with anything between 200 and 300. That seems to be the going rate. I asked because I looked on eBay and didn't see any auctions so I wasn't sure how plentiful they are.

[CoolAsIceCream]

interesting. let me think about that. i might get back to you in a couple of days.

[ZEN]

wolfgang, on 21 June 2012 - 07:31 AM, said:

I'm ok with anything between 200 and 300. That seems to be the going rate. I asked because I looked on eBay and didn't see any auctions so I wasn't sure how plentiful they are.

I'm telling you, be a bit patient my friend. They will come, being that expensive they do not sell right away. Per Buy It Now. When you see one, authenticate it through this website, then if you think you want it just bid higher than anyone else... Again, relax let them come to you. $300 is too much imo.

[wolfgang]

$300 is too much?
What do you think is reasonable?

I'm not in a rush, so I'll wait it out.

[CoolAsIceCream]

i also think $300 is too much.

[.absof.]

I've seen quite a few go for under $200. Just hold off and bid late.