[LostSoul]

I would actually be down for that. Now I hope Billy DOES do that.

Hey, they play November Rain & Stairway endlessly on the radio. Why not Oceania?

[KingBelteshazzar]

yeah, i wish. that type of endorsement of grandiose songs just doesn't seem to happen anymore though. :(/>

[Duhze]

JSapp, on 16 April 2012 - 08:54 AM, said:

I havent listened to the live cuts a I have held out for the studio versions but a single would be nice for promoting the album. Any hype it can get is a plus

I believe a single puts too much attention to a particular song, and overshadows the rest of the album to those who don't follow SP. It can be misleading at times, and create bad first impressions. People new to SP will listen to the single to get a feel for the album, and if they don't like the single, they probably won't check out the rest of the album. Rather than digging into the diverse album, they generalize the album's genre based on the single. I know many people that have done that with Disarm and SD.

[KingBelteshazzar]

i'm fine with Oceania not being previewed by critics, since they'd probably just trash it anyway.

however, there needs to be something to let people know that Oceania is out there and exists.

but i suppose it will get the reviews once it comes out, anyway.

my fear is just that people either won't know it exists or just ignore it. as it is, the only people anticipating this album are SP fans. other than for us, there doesn't seem to be much of a buzz about it coming out. unless i'm oblivious?

[ShamanO]

KingBelteshazzar, on 23 April 2012 - 10:32 AM, said:

i'm fine with Oceania not being previewed by critics, since they'd probably just trash it anyway.

however, there needs to be something to let people know that Oceania is out there and exists.

but i suppose it will get the reviews once it comes out, anyway.

my fear is just that people either won't know it exists or just ignore it. as it is, the only people anticipating this album are SP fans. other than for us, there doesn't seem to be much of a buzz about it coming out. unless i'm oblivious?

we are getting near the end of April and May is the only month left before June. I thought we would start to see some mini advertising (beyond the interviews, the one pic Linda did, and youtube live performance of a few songs) related to the album by now. It's almost scary that there has been nothing for us to see and show/share with other people.

[Matteo]

hey they talk about it on local radio sometimes

[odracir]

Seems like we will have a video.
http://www.ozphoria....ashing-pumpkins
http://www.crestfall...-oceania-video/

I saw those tweets in the morning in @deedeelux twitter account. As news from this appeared, the Oceania and @smashingpumpkin tweets magically... disappeared!.

[Corganite]

Nice one. This is good news :happy:/>

[Sophie]

odracir, on 24 April 2012 - 07:14 AM, said:

Seems like we will have a video.
http://www.ozphoria....ashing-pumpkins
http://www.crestfall...-oceania-video/

I saw those tweets in the morning in @deedeelux twitter account. As news from this appeared, the Oceania and @smashingpumpkin tweets magically... disappeared!.

To be completely honest I don't know exactly what to expect... Burlesque can be brilliant as well as tasteless. :whattodo:/>

[odracir]

As long as they dress like octopus and turtles, as she hinted in her tweets, It's ok with me.
It would be great if Billy appeared in the video as a starfish or someting.

[ItsSoPringles]

so what song you guys think will get it

[BitterRootOfSelf]

Maybe the whole album as a video. Weren't they hinting at that a while ago? Some interactive element for the whole thing?

[orchidaii]

I was surprised no one caught on to the tweets about the video - the one I retweeted was 2 days old lol I had a feeling that she wasn't suppose to make it public lol

The videos could be footage for the tour too.

[odracir]

orchidaii, on 24 April 2012 - 08:00 AM, said:

I was surprised no one caught on to the tweets about the video - the one I retweeted was 2 days old lol I had a feeling that she wasn't suppose to make it public lol

The videos could be footage for the tour too.

Yeah, that's true, I saw ByStarlight RT's and went staight to the account and noticed she has been in this since the friday with all the @smashingpumpkin tags and stuff, she stated they will be recording her still today, a few minutes later... no trace of any of those tweets, even the images.

And yeah, being part of the tour footage is a possibility.

[Sophie]

orchidaii, on 24 April 2012 - 08:00 AM, said:

I was surprised no one caught on to the tweets about the video - the one I retweeted was 2 days old lol

You know to which extent I suck at the internet! :p/>

orchidaii, on 24 April 2012 - 08:00 AM, said:

I had a feeling that she wasn't suppose to make it public lol

Same feeling her ;)/>

orchidaii, on 24 April 2012 - 08:00 AM, said:

The videos could be footage for the tour too.

Could be! Time is indeed running out for the footage of a full album video (considering that no single was initially supposed to be released).

odracir, on 24 April 2012 - 07:49 AM, said:

As long as they dress like octopus and turtles, as she hinted in her tweets, It's ok with me.

If they fall into a whole "Little Mermaid" thing the video better be really good and tasteful otherwise...

odracir, on 24 April 2012 - 07:49 AM, said:

It would be great if Billy appeared in the video as a starfish or someting.

C'mon you know he only dresses up like this in private... ;)/>
Now seriously I can be all "second degree" sometimes and I actually kind of liked the golden dress joke, but this time the band needs something strong enough to boost the album.

[ShamanO]

so either it's a video for the album, a specific song or possibly something for the tours visuals.

a turtle and an octopus is involved somehow. this should be interesting. no other marine animals? no penguins, no seals, no sharks and other things were included?

are they using the visuals that are being worked on by Sean Evans in May when they perform or does it begin later?

[savethetiger]

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense for it to just be tour footage.

Not to say it won't be used in a live presentation, but if you are going to invest that much time and money into shooting, you are likely going to put it out in another way, so that people are more invested when they see those visuals at the show.

It also doesn't make a whole lot of sense to have a music video, since Billy knows the MTV days are over and there apparently isn't a single. So I'd probably throw that out.

I would say a version of what TV on the Radio did with their last record, 9 types of light, is highly likely.

They launch the hour long music video film to stream upon release, with order options to follow. Thus no leaking. You are forced to watch the whole video, get the full 'experience' and understand the concept. Then when you order your cd, or vinyl, you get your digital download, plus a file of the video as well. Hopefully as part of the packages you could opt to receive a copy of the film on dvd/blu, but I know in TVOTR's case, they didn't release the film like that initially (although I believe you can buy a hard copy of it now).

I think this would be the hands down best business model to reinvigorate the Pumpkin crowd who had a fondness for their creative videos in the 90's, while staying fresh and showing off the new band in a cool way.

My only concern is timewise; if they are just starting this now, that is a lot to shoot to get it done in time for early June. But if you bring in a few different directors, doing their own things simultaneously, they each do a song or two that speaks to them, then it probably would be possible. Still tight though. But who knows maybe it started a while back and we've been completely clueless all along? Here's hoping if this is the case, Billy brings in some really interesting directors to do their own Pumpkins thing, while shooting at least one or two of the songs himself.

[ShamanO]

so this could be some visual component for the album and not the tour.

interesting.

I suppose if it's different for the album and the tour this could be a stimulating album visually after all.

[Inertia]

So this is gonna be like The Wall? Sweet! :)/>

[Lunatic]

http://www.rollingst...isting-20120427

I'm too quick for you, Monte. ;)/> Pew pew!

[Sophie]

Lunatic, on 27 April 2012 - 01:34 PM, said:

http://www.rollingst...isting-20120427

I'm too quick for you, Monte. ;)/> Pew pew!

:w00t:/>!!!!!


Thank God There's no starfish on it!
And I think the theme of isolation is quite obvious.
Sweet!

Edit: I'm a bit disappointed by the typeface though.

This post has been edited by Sophie: 27 April 2012 - 01:40 PM

[MonteLDS]

I was busy writing the article to post here.. :p/>

[DandyJon]

I love the cover! :jackyl:/>

[crepe]

looks good

[ShamanO]

http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/story/smashing-pumpkins-reveal-oceania-cover-and-track-listing-20120427/1000x306/main.jpg

WHAT'S INSIDE THE TOWER? :whattodo:/>

[Sophie]

DandyJon, on 27 April 2012 - 01:40 PM, said:

I love the cover! :jackyl:/>

Now we have something to discuss about for at least ten pages!!
I think all the hype came back all of a sudden with the release of that cover.
Brilliant!

[Deleted User Account]

Sophie, on 27 April 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

:w00t:/>!!!!!


Thank God There's no starfish on it!
And I think the theme of isolation is quite obvious.
Sweet!

Edit: I'm a bit disappointed by the typeface though.

I'll echo that. It does evoke isolation, but the typeface is booo-ring.

[gyang333]

Sophie, on 27 April 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

:w00t:/>!!!!!


Thank God There's no starfish on it!
And I think the theme of isolation is quite obvious.
Sweet!

Edit: I'm a bit disappointed by the typeface though.

I wouldn't say I'm disappointed with the typeface, but doesn't it look, too... plain?

[Lunatic]

I think it would look really good with no typeface.

[oryann]

I... love it? :happy:/>

[Sophie]

Lunatic, on 27 April 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

I think it would look really good with no typeface.

This.
->even more acute feeling of isolation. ;)/>

[Bountiful_Wasteland]

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh!!!! http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/board_new/public/style_emoticons/default/awklove.gifhttp://www.smashingpumpkins.com/board_new/public/style_emoticons/default/jackyl.gif

[ShamanO]

can someone get a larger image of this?

I want ZOOM plz

[Sophie]

Post removed

Sorry I'm messing up with my computer...
Still puzzled by the news ;)/>

This post has been edited by Sophie: 27 April 2012 - 02:00 PM

[ShamanO]

LOL that's ok.

at least it was something out there while we waited for ever for this freakin amazing cover. it's has my favorite color of blue in it :D/> :D/> :D/> :D/>

[MonteLDS]

HAHAHA RS took the article down!

[Bountiful_Wasteland]

MonteLDS, on 27 April 2012 - 02:00 PM, said:

HAHAHA RS took the article down!

Were they not authorized yet?http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/board_new/public/style_emoticons/default/whattodo.gif

This post has been edited by Bountiful_Wasteland: 27 April 2012 - 02:05 PM

[odracir]

Aaaaaand the link ...is gone...again. First it was the Oceania videos tweets, then the announcment, then Oceania cover, this is pure blueballs.

[Sophie]

ShamanO, on 27 April 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

LOL that's ok. at least it was something out there while we waited for ever for this freakin amazing cover.

To me it's part of the album artwork since I've listened to hours of Oceania with your pic on my computer :happy:/>

MonteLDS, on 27 April 2012 - 02:00 PM, said:

HAHAHA RS took the article down!

Link still works for me.

Edit: No wait it just died here too! Dammit :rant:/>

This post has been edited by Sophie: 27 April 2012 - 02:06 PM

[ShamanO]

aww thx sophie. but now you can stare at a tower! and the blues..oh man why do I love blue so much!!!

[ae37jr]

ShamanO, on 27 April 2012 - 01:43 PM, said:

http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/story/smashing-pumpkins-reveal-oceania-cover-and-track-listing-20120427/1000x306/main.jpg

WHAT'S INSIDE THE TOWER? :whattodo:/>

It's a Panopticon

[crestfallen73]

ShamanO, on 27 April 2012 - 01:43 PM, said:

http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/story/smashing-pumpkins-reveal-oceania-cover-and-track-listing-20120427/1000x306/main.jpg

WHAT'S INSIDE THE TOWER? :whattodo:/>

And what is on the other side of the hill that can be seen from the tower?

[oryann]

ShamanO, on 27 April 2012 - 02:06 PM, said:

aww thx sophie. but now you can stare at a tower! and the blues..oh man why do I love blue so much!!!

I'm right there with you. It's like every shade of blue I love to death put into one, and then an amazing bit of scenery on top of that.

I agree that it evokes isolation too. I love it!

[Simon]

Link seems to be back in action.