[Pumpkin Patrick]

Here is a CD I made that fits exactly on a 700MB cd using High VBR mp3s. It hasn't left my car stereo for months.

I especially love the ordering of the Adore B-sides, it flows so nicely and feels like a story is being told.


(1998) Adore
[
01 - To Sheila
02 - Ava Adore
03 - Perfect
04 - Daphne Descends
05 - Once upon a Time
06 - Tear
07 - Crestfallen
08 - Appels + Oranjes
09 - Pug
10 - The Tale of Dust and Pistol Pete
11 - Annie-Dog
12 - Shame
13 - Behold! the Night Mare
14 - For Martha
15 - Blank Page
16 - Once In A While
17 - 17
]
(1998) Adore B-Sides
[
01 - The Beginning Is the End Is the Beginning
02 - Blissed And Gone
03 - Eye
04 - Sparrow
04 - Waiting
05 - Saturnine
06 - Summer
07 - Because You Are
08 - Winterlong
09 - Soot and Stars
10 - My Mistake
11 - Czarina
12 - The End Is the Beginning Is the End

]
(2000) Machina - The Machines of God
[
01 - The Everlasting Gaze
02 - Raindrops + Sunshowers
03 - Stand Inside Your Love
04 - I of the Mourning
05 - The Sacred and Profane
06 - Try, Try, Try
07 - Heavy Metal Machine
08 - This Time
09 - The Imploding Voice
10 - Glass and the Ghost Children
11 - Wound
12 - The Crying Tree of Mercury
13 - Speed Kills
14 - Age of Innocence
15 - With Every Light
16 - Blue Skies Bring Tears
[
(2000) Machina II - The Friends & Enemies of Modern Music
]
01 - Glass
02 - Cash Car Star
03 - Dross
04 - Real Love
05 - Go
06 - Let Me Give The World To You
07 - Innosence
08 - Home
09 - Blue Skies Bring Tears (Heavy)
10 - White Spyder
11 - In My Body
12 - If There Is A God [Full Band]
13 - Le Deux Machina
14 - Here's to the Atom Bomb [Alternate]
]
(2000) Machina B-Sides
[
01 - Slow Dawn
02 - Vanity
03 - Satur9
04 - Glass (Alternate Version)
05 - Soul Power
06 - Cash Car Star (Version 1)
07 - Lucky 13
08 - Speed Kills But Beauty Lives Forever
09 - If There Is A God (Piano And Voice)
10 - Untitled
11 - Try (Version 1)
12 - Heavy Metal Machine (Version 1 Alternate Mix)
14 - Here's To the Atom Bomb

]
(2007) Zeitgeist
[
01 - Doomsday Clock
02 - 7 Shades of Black
03 - Bleeding the Orchid
04 - That's the Way (My Love Is)
05 - Tarantula
06 - Starz
07 - United States
08 - Neverlost
09 - Bring the Light
10 - (Come On) Let's Go!
11 - For God and Country
12 - Pomp and Circumstances
13 - Zeitgeist
]
(2007) Zeitgeist B-Sides
[
01 - Death From Above
02 - Stellar
03 - Ma Belle
04 - The Rose March
05 - Again, Again, Again (The Crux)
06 - POX
07 - Sunkissed
08 - G.L.O.W.
09 - SuperChrist
10 - FOL
]
(2010) Teargarden By Kaleidyscope
[
01 - Song For A Son
02 - Astral Planes
03 - Widow Wake My Mind
04 - A Stitch In Time
05 - Teargarden Theme
06 - The Fellowship
07 - Freak
08 - Tom Tom
09 - Spangled
10 - Cottonwood Symphony
11 - Lightning Strikes
12 - Owata

[CoolAsIceCream]

thanks for letting us know.

[AlienCloak]

thanks for letting us know.

[agent_cooper]

We'll let you know

[Pumpkin Patrick]

I guess I'll know when you let me.

[Pumpkin Patrick]

the only song I think I'm missing from this era is Rock On which I left out purposely.

Does anyone know if I am missing any thing important?

Excluding the Adore and Machina demos, and focusing more on publicly/commercially released songs.

I also posted this to see if anyone would order this differently, if I have a B-side in the wrong folder, and just to let people know something like this was possible.

Next I will try to fill a cd with everything pre-adore and post my findings.

[agent_cooper]

man, you just copied the tracklistshttp://www.smashingpumpkins.com/board_new/public/style_emoticons/default/whattodo.gif

of adore, machina, machina 2, zeitgeist etc

[Pumpkin Patrick]

agent_cooper, on 06 November 2011 - 03:31 AM, said:

man, you just copied the tracklistshttp://www.smashingpumpkins.com/board_new/public/style_emoticons/default/whattodo.gif

of adore, machina, machina 2, zeitgeist etc

Yes I did exactly that, and I also copied the tracklists of the albums Adore B-sides, Machina B-sides, and Zeitgeist B-sides.

oh wait those albums don't exist. :scatch:/> Thanks your reply anyway even though you don't get it.

I made 4 or 5 attempts at fitting every song and b-side from Adore to the Present on a single CD and got these results.

Of course I couldn't include a few things. (Ransom soundtrack, Age of Innocence (Alt), Rock On)

But with a Variable Bit Rate of 32 - 320 MBPS I was able to fit this, and it's an incredible CD for driving around.

I just discovered VBR mp3s, the files are so small considering how great the quality is.

[cleric]

am i in the right place if i want to post a list of songs i can fit on my 800MB CDs?

[frednirv632]

Pumpkin Patrick, on 06 November 2011 - 12:18 PM, said:

Yes I did exactly that, and I also copied the tracklists of the albums Adore B-sides, Machina B-sides, and Zeitgeist B-sides.

oh wait those albums don't exist. :scatch:/> Thanks your reply anyway even though you don't get it.

I made 4 or 5 attempts at fitting every song and b-side from Adore to the Present on a single CD and got these results.

Of course I couldn't include a few things. (Ransom soundtrack, Age of Innocence (Alt), Rock On)

But with a Variable Bit Rate of 32 - 320 MBPS I was able to fit this, and it's an incredible CD for driving around.

I just discovered VBR mp3s, the files are so small considering how great the quality is.

thanks for letting us know.

[Pumpkin Patrick]

cleric, on 06 November 2011 - 12:21 PM, said:

am i in the right place if i want to post a list of songs i can fit on my 800MB CDs?

I would be interested, yes please do so.

[CoolAsIceCream]

Pumpkin Patrick, on 06 November 2011 - 12:18 PM, said:

I just discovered VBR mp3s, the files are so small considering how great the quality is.

lol

cleric, on 06 November 2011 - 12:21 PM, said:

am i in the right place if i want to post a list of songs i can fit on my 800MB CDs?

lol

[Pumpkin Patrick]

CoolAsIceCream, on 07 November 2011 - 10:46 AM, said:

lol

It must be funny that I just discovered it, but I wonder if you're lol-ing because you don't think VBR sounds as good as I proclaim.

[CoolAsIceCream]

it's funny that you just discovered it.
that's just gold material. you can't invent stuff like that.

[Pumpkin Patrick]

Songs to fill a 3.5 floppy

The Bells
[
01 The Bells
]

[CoolAsIceCream]

that's another thing about your issue: these days this 700MB cd problem doesn't apply to people anymore. there are usb sticks and mp3 players and space is never a problem.

[Pumpkin Patrick]

CoolAsIceCream, on 09 November 2011 - 07:29 AM, said:

that's another thing about your issue: these days this 700MB cd problem doesn't apply to people anymore. there are usb sticks and mp3 players and space is never a problem.

It is so funny that this perplexes you. I lol at you.

My car does not have a USB port and I don't own or care to own an MP3 player. I have a CD player that can play "Data CDs" and a SiriusXM radio. This thread is perfectly viable for those who are not in the "most people" category.

I was reminded in this thread that there are larger sized CDRs (800mb so I do feel a little silly there), but I still stand by this thread as something that might be useful for some people. Some of the most interesting threads on this site are the ones where people reveal their song lists. On this thread you get a new twist on an Adore b-sides track-list, I suggest you listen to the songs I've listed in that order and you may be pleasantly surprised.

[slunk_4ever]

my tracklisting for teargarden

(2010) Teargarden By Kaleidyscope

01 - Song For A Son
02 - Widow Wake My Mind
03 - A Stitch In Time
04 - Astral Planes
05 - Freak
06 - Spangled
07 - The Fellowship
08 - Tom Tom
09 - Lightning Strikes
10 - Owata

Then I have some live songs from a 92 show to fill up the disk.

[frosty]

i don't know what VBR is. hehe. i don't have an ipad, iphone, ipod, or whatever else. i wouldn't mind an ipod if i can get one for free. otherwise, i'll wait til i really feel like getting one, like if i'm out a lot which is almost never.

[agent_cooper]

frosty, on 10 November 2011 - 11:16 AM, said:

i don't know what VBR is. hehe. i don't have an ipad, iphone, ipod, or whatever else. i wouldn't mind an ipod if i can get one for free. otherwise, i'll wait til i really feel like getting one, like if i'm out a lot which is almost never.

I feel like getting back to my good ol' discman as well. for now, my cheap mp3 player will do.

[CoolAsIceCream]

Pumpkin Patrick, on 09 November 2011 - 12:45 PM, said:

On this thread you get a new twist on an Adore b-sides track-list, I suggest you listen to the songs I've listed in that order and you may be pleasantly surprised.

no way. NEVER!

[Deleted User]

Need a Cassettes thread also.

[Pumpkin Patrick]

frosty, on 10 November 2011 - 11:16 AM, said:

i don't know what VBR is. hehe. i don't have an ipad, iphone, ipod, or whatever else. i wouldn't mind an ipod if i can get one for free. otherwise, i'll wait til i really feel like getting one, like if i'm out a lot which is almost never.

VBR = Variable Bit Rate - basically the bit rate changes through out the MP3, the denser parts get 320bps where simple parts and silence will get a lower bit rate like 32bps or something. The converter will always chose the rate that it needs for the best quality without wasting space. It makes for High Quality Mp3s that are very small in size so you are able to fit more on a Disc.
I use Switch to convert.

CoolAsIceCream, on 14 November 2011 - 04:38 AM, said:

no way. NEVER!

I was in disbelief when I heard it myself. I also thought "Never had I heard such a great list!!" just like you. I'm glad you enjoyed listening to it, your enthusiastic reaction says it all.

on another note......

I decided that I was off on a few other listings. According to me, "Death From Above" now belongs on Zeitgeist because of its theme and because it is a great opener for "Bring the Light", so I re-added it after "Neverlost". I am satisfied with all these transitions now. "Stellar" and "Ma Belle" are great songs but do not fit on this album at all in their sounds and the way they're mixed. Plus they ruin the transition between "(Come On) Let's Go" and "God and Country". This order for me is the best way to listen to Zeitgeist.

I think a lot of people don't like this album because they listen to the longer versions that are placed together like an afterthought and don't flow as nice as the original release.

----- Zeitgeist --------
01 - Doomsday Clock
02 - 7 Shades of Black
03 - Bleeding the Orchid
04 - That's the Way (My Love Is)
05 - Tarantula
06 - Starz
07 - United States
08 - Neverlost
09 - Death From Above
10 - Bring the Light
11 - (Come On) Let's Go!
12 - For God and Country
13 - Pomp and Circumstances
14 - Zeitgeist
]


I also saw a lot of people are using Teargarden Theme as track 1. I like this a lot and have converted.

----- Teargarden By Kaleidyscope -------
[
01 - Teargarden Theme
02 - Song For A Son
03 - Astral Planes
04 - Widow Wake My Mind
05 - A Stitch In Time
06 - The Fellowship
07 - Freak
08 - Tom Tom
09 - Spangled
10 - Cottonwood Symphony
11 - Lightning Strikes
12 - Owata

[CoolAsIceCream]

thanks for letting us know.