[Simon Belmont]

Kind of surprised there isn't a thread about this yet. Pretty huge news, I wonder what happened? :shocked:/>


Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins break with producer Kerry Brown
11:00 am // Friday, December 9, 2011

Rock producer Kerry Brown has announced that he is no longer working with the Smashing Pumpkins.

Multiple sources tell HU that Pumpkins ringmaster Billy Corgan informed several associates of a split between himself and Brown early in November, with Corgan saying to one friend blogger that there will be “no relationship moving forward” between Brown and the band.

The break between Corgan and Brown came only weeks after the two shared a stage at Chicago’s Riviera Theatre, when Brown’s band Catherine joined Corgan to perform two songs during an encore at a Smashing Pumpkins concert on October 14.

Brown has worked extensively on Corgan’s Teargarden by Kaleidyscope project, directed the Smashing Pumpkins Record Club during its infancy this year, mixed bonus tracks for the recent reissues of the Pumpkins albums Gish and Siamese Dream, played drums with the Corgan-led supergroup Spirits in the Sky during 2009, and co-produced the Pumpkins track “Superchrist” in 2008, among many other activities. For a time, Brown also helped operate the Pumpkins’ official Twitter account—but now, Brown and Corgan are no longer even following each other on Twitter.

[rosenkreuzer]

bye bye starchildren


:what:/> :what:/> :what:/> :what:/> :what:/> :what:/>

[standing]

simon. come on. what happened? dont be like this.

[ShamanO]

maybe this involves Billy getting an offer from a label and for that he would not need Kerry as much at that point. It was a helping of each other to move forward with their careers.

[MonteLDS]

Kerry did a lot of great things for the band and for us fans. I appreciate all the great work and wish him well in his next adventure.

[rosenkreuzer]

and another one has to ride the white van.

[CourtJaster]

Now, let's not jump to conclusions.








...okay, I guess it is pretty much foregone.

[ShamanO]

MonteLDS, on 09 December 2011 - 09:49 AM, said:

Kerry did a lot of great things for the band and for us fans. I appreciate all the great work and wish him well in his next adventure.

^^This!

[gyang333]

ShamanO, on 09 December 2011 - 09:45 AM, said:

maybe this involves Billy getting an offer from a label and for that he would not need Kerry as much at that point. It was a helping of each other to move forward with their careers.

Certainly not Kerry's career. I'm not one of the people that is saying this is the best news for SP because the parting of friends is always a sad thing, but this is definitely not good for Kerry's career.

[dudehitscar]

strange move. I hope it wasn't a whole lot of drama that led to this. I mean wasn't billy living at Kerry Brown's house for months in the last few years.

[ShamanO]

how so? They worked together and many bands are aware of this and may choose to have KB produce their music now. Media makes more into things. His twitter didn't say anything much beyond he no longer works for the Pumpkins and not following one another is a nice way to get the tweeter stalkers to notice and begin speculations for the media to report...drama in the news creates ATTENTION!

gyang333, on 09 December 2011 - 10:01 AM, said:

Certainly not Kerry's career. I'm not one of the people that is saying this is the best news for SP because the parting of friends is always a sad thing, but this is definitely not good for Kerry's career.

also didn't Billy's little stunt with devi ever do her some good?

[Mayfair]

FUCK NO STARCHILDREN!!!!!!! FUCK MY LIFE!!!!!!!

rosenkreuzer, on 09 December 2011 - 09:34 AM, said:

bye bye starchildren

i feel like i have been gutted.

[ShamanO]

HEY no one said that is never going to happen. Maybe in a few years. :shrug:/>

[Simon Belmont]

rosenkreuzer, on 09 December 2011 - 09:51 AM, said:

and another one has to ride the white van.

Uh oh...you're going to make me do it again, aren't you? :lol:/> I do miss making all those white van pictures.

[Mayfair]

ShamanO, on 09 December 2011 - 10:15 AM, said:

HEY no one said that is never going to happen. Maybe in a few years. :shrug:/>

great. a few MORE years on top of the 15 I have already been waiting. :thumbsdown:/>

[Her]

Oh this is great, maybe now they'll make rock music again! I doubt it, but obviously I still have hope!

[ShamanO]

Mayfair, on 09 December 2011 - 10:17 AM, said:

great. a few MORE years on top of the 15 I have already been waiting. :thumbsdown:/>

patience grasshopper

Simon Belmont, on 09 December 2011 - 10:15 AM, said:

Uh oh...you're going to make me do it again, aren't you? :lol:/> I do miss making all those white van pictures.

don't type about it BE ABOUT IT...be like Nike and JUST DO IT

[MisterSquishyHalo]

This is Not Good. Isn't Brown the guy that was moving the SPRC along???

I question the future of the re-issues and the SPRC.

[ShamanO]

MisterSquishyHalo, on 09 December 2011 - 10:38 AM, said:

This is Not Good. Isn't Brown the guy that was moving the SPRC along???

I question the future of the re-issues and the SPRC.

perhaps Mayfair will be involved with the MCIS reissues \m/ he's a MCIS smarty pants

[Songwriter]

MonteLDS, on 09 December 2011 - 09:49 AM, said:

Kerry did a lot of great things for the band and for us fans. I appreciate all the great work and wish him well in his next adventure.

I agree. :)/> <3/>

[Arachnea]

I realize that many of the fans did not like some of his production work with the pumpkins, but he did do a lot for the fan community and it is going to be missed. Starla remix aside, I thought he did a good job on the re-issues.

Her, on 09 December 2011 - 10:21 AM, said:

Oh this is great, maybe now they'll make rock music again! I doubt it, but obviously I still have hope!

What does Kerry have to do with Billy choosing the style of music he wants to play? It is not like Kerry forced him into a room and made him play synths all day.

MisterSquishyHalo, on 09 December 2011 - 10:38 AM, said:

This is Not Good. Isn't Brown the guy that was moving the SPRC along???

I question the future of the re-issues and the SPRC.

I was thinking about this as well.

[Mayfair]

ShamanO, on 09 December 2011 - 10:43 AM, said:

perhaps Mayfair will be involved with the MCIS reissues \m/ he's a MCIS smarty pants

me and apples will spearhead the entire thing. :thumbsup:/>

[ShamanO]

Mayfair, on 09 December 2011 - 11:03 AM, said:

me and apples will spearhead the entire thing. :thumbsup:/>

I approve!

[afroguy10]

Mayfair, on 09 December 2011 - 11:03 AM, said:

me and apples will spearhead the entire thing. :thumbsup:/>

:thumbsup:/>

[Mayfair]

his work on the new HS mix will never be forgotten. RIP <3/>

[Mayfair]

ArticulateEric, on 09 December 2011 - 11:21 AM, said:

What did Kerry even do for the band?

sessions at Bugg Studios over the years, Soundworks back in '92, and Soundworks in '93 when they did Blew Away and Glynis (he also played drums on Blew Away)

[hotoriousDICK]

Please stay on topic please... this is not about monte.

[ShamanO]

Mayfair, on 09 December 2011 - 11:28 AM, said:

sessions at Bugg Studios over the years, Soundworks back in '92, and Soundworks in '93 when they did Blew Away and Glynis (he also played drums on Blew Away)

so is it fair to say that because he was involved int he early works of SP recordings that it only makes sense for him to be involved in the reissues that have been released? And whoever the masters of MCIS will be working with SP for those?

[ZivotSon]

Back on topic, and I'm surprised no one has pointed this out yet, but it's pretty obvious why Billy parted ways with Kerry: It was Kerry's idea to have Fancy Space People tour with SP.

Good luck to you Kerry.

[dudehitscar]

ZivotSon, on 09 December 2011 - 11:47 AM, said:

Back on topic, and I'm surprised no one has pointed this out yet, but it's pretty obvious why Billy parted ways with Kerry: It was Kerry's idea to have Fancy Space People tour with SP.

Good luck to you Kerry.

:rofl:/>

[RottingApples]

Mayfair, on 09 December 2011 - 11:03 AM, said:

me and apples will spearhead the entire thing. :thumbsup:/>

:thumbsup:/> And it will be the greatest re-issue the world has ever known.

[ShamanO]

http://fancyspacepeo...cy-space-people <3/> this song

also I want to add...Fancy Space people can't be too bad if they landed on Yo Gabba Gabba

http://www.rollingst...-people-0082031

[thorazine]

SP parting with someone is common practice.

[ZivotSon]

ShamanO, on 09 December 2011 - 12:06 PM, said:

http://fancyspacepeo...cy-space-people <3/> this song

also I want to add...Fancy Space people can't be too bad if they landed on Yo Gabba Gabba

http://www.rollingst...-people-0082031

Don't be a denier ShamanO. I was at the Wiltern. I witnessed the horror first hand.

[Arachnea]

Was Kerry much more involved with the works of recent pumpkins music that I thought? It seems like an awful lot of posters are pointing the finger to Billy's poor musical output on Kerry. I do not think much of anything could have saved some of those Teargarden songs. Another scapegoat? I cannot help but feel that his role in the music direction has been over-exaggerated.

[marigold]

rosenkreuzer, on 09 December 2011 - 09:34 AM, said:

bye bye starchildren


:what:/> :what:/> :what:/> :what:/> :what:/> :what:/>

He said he wouldn't be working with SP anymore, not Starchildren.

*hopes*

:shrug:/>

[thorazine]

they dont follow each others twitters?!
dats srs bizniss

[ShamanO]

ZivotSon, on 09 December 2011 - 12:27 PM, said:

Don't be a denier ShamanO. I was at the Wiltern. I witnessed the horror first hand.

perhaps it's just not something YOU are interested in?

thorazine, on 09 December 2011 - 12:42 PM, said:

they dont follow each others twitters?!
dats srs bizniss

of course it is..it's media buzz bizniss

[thorazine]

shamano. dont stick up for fancy space people.

[ShamanO]

I'm not I happen to like them! Sorry for liking odd tunes!

Hey thorazine are you my best friend because we follow each others twitter? oh hey that could go for anyone who follows my twitter.
OMG YOU GUYS! you follow Billy HE MUST BE YOUR BEST FRIEND EVER!

[rosenkreuzer]

lame

[melabonbon]

Arachnea, on 09 December 2011 - 12:39 PM, said:

Was Kerry much more involved with the works of recent pumpkins music that I thought? It seems like an awful lot of posters are pointing the finger to Billy's poor musical output on Kerry. I do not think much of anything could have saved some of those Teargarden songs. Another scapegoat? I cannot help but feel that his role in the music direction has been over-exaggerated.

:cheers:/>

A lot of the songs were just not good songs, and let's not forget everyone has been complaining about production quality since Zeitgeist, which I don't think Kerry actually did any work on.
I don't know why people think Billy's songwriting is magically going to get better just because someone else is producing and mixing it.
Or why anyone thinks Billy would just let Kerry go mix things and then release them without them getting the Billy stamp of approval first.

[ShamanO]

rosenkreuzer, on 09 December 2011 - 01:00 PM, said:

lame

^shame...on you.. Y U NO B MAH FRAND ON TEH TWITTER? :cry:/>

[Arachnea]

melabonbon, on 09 December 2011 - 01:03 PM, said:

:cheers:/>

A lot of the songs were just not good songs, and let's not forget everyone has been complaining about production quality since Zeitgeist, which I don't think Kerry actually did any work on.
I don't know why people think Billy's songwriting is magically going to get better just because someone else is producing and mixing it.
Or why anyone thinks Billy would just let Kerry go mix things and then release them without them getting the Billy stamp of approval first.

:cheers:/>