[Bountiful_Wasteland]

I never really thought they'd release this on Record Store Day. I figured they'd release something different and special instead.

[Brundisium]

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8185/ipodcassettetapefunny.jpg

[brandnewfan]

So it's comig with a second disc then? Sounds good to me. I was worried there would be no bonus disc and we'd only be getting the tape, which is a cool idea in itself but not very feasible if it doesn't include some sort of digital option as well.

[soniclovenoize]

Wow, I'm either really old or you guys are all really young. Didn't any of you tape trade? Or are you all of the "mediafire generation"? Back in the day, if youw anted a certain bootleg, you couldn't just log onto ZOMB and get that and 30,000 other shows. You had to fucking find it. Search bootlists. And then once you found someone with that show, you had to have something they other guy didn't just to get what you want.

Anyways I have fond memories of dubbing Pisces to cassette and listening to it though my Walkman as I mowed the lawn of my parents' house. It was always problematic because the album wasn't easily split into two halves of a 60 minute tape...

I guess this tape is meant for people like me, not for some of you younger guys. It actually kinda means something to me. I think it's pretty fucking cool.

[frosty]

i still have a tape player, and i have a VCR that still works. :lol:/>

[standing]

fuck.

[Deleted User Account]

soniclovenoize, on 14 February 2012 - 07:14 PM, said:

Wow, I'm either really old or you guys are all really young. Didn't any of you tape trade? Or are you all of the "mediafire generation"? Back in the day, if youw anted a certain bootleg, you couldn't just log onto ZOMB and get that and 30,000 other shows. You had to fucking find it. Search bootlists. And then once you found someone with that show, you had to have something they other guy didn't just to get what you want.

Anyways I have fond memories of dubbing Pisces to cassette and listening to it though my Walkman as I mowed the lawn of my parents' house. It was always problematic because the album wasn't easily split into two halves of a 60 minute tape...

I guess this tape is meant for people like me, not for some of you younger guys. It actually kinda means something to me. I think it's pretty fucking cool.

Nostalgia aside, I doubt you're going to pop it in your walkman and mow your parents lawn again. Unless you are. In which case... proceed.

[redsox]

ArticulateEric, on 14 February 2012 - 08:34 PM, said:

Nostalgia aside, I doubt you're going to pop it in your walkman and mow your parents lawn again. Unless you are. In which case... proceed.

Wouldn't this require said individual to stop playing whatever on-line video game they are currently playing in their parents basement and come out into the sunlight? (Sorry I really couldn't help myself here ~ and no, there is nothing wrong w/ playing on-line games....I myself do as well)...

[Fernando]

ArticulateEric, on 14 February 2012 - 08:34 PM, said:

Nostalgia aside, I doubt you're going to pop it in your walkman and mow your parents lawn again. Unless you are. In which case... proceed.

I doubt many people will put the CD to play as well. It's the "mp3" era now, CD is almost as vintage as a tape.

[redsox]

Fernando, on 15 February 2012 - 04:30 AM, said:

I doubt many people will put the CD to play as well. It's the "mp3" era now, CD is almost as vintage as a tape.

Cd's are great for cars ~ or at least cars w/o an MP3 connection, but otherwise I would agree, cd's are def. becoming a thing of the past. Although I do miss looking at the artwork in albums, something about "digital books" that come w/ a downloaded cd just don't do it fore me

[Sophie]

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lslaiksGSg1qi6et4o1_500.png
Elder's guilty pleasure.

Love it. :coy:/>

[CoolAsIceCream]

i listen to cds all the time.

[werideatdusk]

So, this is coming with
*CD 1 (remastered PI)
*CD 2 (bonus disc including "Glynis" remix)
*DVD of 1988 basement show
*Cassette reproduction of TSP demo tape

That's gonna be a big box...

[RottingApples]

werideatdusk, on 15 February 2012 - 08:36 AM, said:

So, this is coming with
*CD 1 (remastered PI)
*CD 2 (bonus disc including "Glynis" remix)
*DVD of 1988 basement show
*Cassette reproduction of TSP demo tape

That's gonna be a big box...

Makes me hope Mellon Collie and Aeroplane will be even bigger...

[Deleted User Account]

Fernando, on 15 February 2012 - 04:30 AM, said:

I doubt many people will put the CD to play as well. It's the "mp3" era now, CD is almost as vintage as a tape.

Not quite. Nice effort, though.

[MonteLDS]

werideatdusk, on 15 February 2012 - 08:36 AM, said:

So, this is coming with
*CD 1 (remastered PI)
*CD 2 (bonus disc including "Glynis" remix)
*DVD of 1988 basement show
*Cassette reproduction of TSP demo tape

That's gonna be a big box...

not so sure that it is going be much bigger than the two we just got. I just put my SD tape inside my SD Re-Issue and took out the post card and it fit fine.

now here is a twist- what if like the TGBK vol 1, there was an alt tape

[Fernando]

ArticulateEric, on 15 February 2012 - 10:40 AM, said:

Not quite. Nice effort, though.

Really? Oh, well:

http://www.geek.com/...-2012-20110330/

"According to a recent study by Strategy Analytics, a market analysis firm that helps companies identify trends and market data, next year [2012] will be the first year that digital music sales will overtake CD music sales in the United States."

-

"The major labels plan to abandon the CD-format by the end of 2012 (or even earlier) and replace it with download/stream only releases via iTunes and related music services. The only CD-formats that will be left over will be the limited edition ones, which will of course not be available for every artist. The distribution model for these remaining CD releases would be primarily Amazon which is already the biggest CD retailer worldwide anyhow."

http://www.side-line...d=46980_0_2_0_C

I think those mean something, right?

[Deleted User Account]

The difference being CD's are on there way out, and cassettes have been out of date for over a decade.. and that's being generous.

[werideatdusk]

MonteLDS, on 15 February 2012 - 10:53 AM, said:

not so sure that it is going be much bigger than the two we just got. I just put my SD tape inside my SD Re-Issue and took out the post card and it fit fine.

now here is a twist- what if like the TGBK vol 1, there was an alt tape

I for one would welcome the return of the much maligned "SP chochkies"....

I love my obelisk!

[standing]

MonteLDS, on 15 February 2012 - 10:53 AM, said:

not so sure that it is going be much bigger than the two we just got. I just put my SD tape inside my SD Re-Issue and took out the post card and it fit fine.

now here is a twist- what if like the TGBK vol 1, there was an alt tape

monte please dont joke like that! the obelisk/alt record was a hassle enough. Let's not tarnish the good old era with that kind of nonsense. :)/>

Im glad its been somewhat confirmed that pisces will have its own b-disc (and its not just the cassette). I REALLY cant wait for this boxset! Im so pleased they are throwing in bonuses that make this package even BIGGER than the first 2.

[MonteLDS]

i think it would be cool that you might get a copy of this tape but someone else gets this tape.

[Fernando]

ArticulateEric, on 15 February 2012 - 11:36 AM, said:

The difference being CD's are on there way out, and cassettes have been out of date for over a decade.. and that's being generous.

that's why I said CD is almost as vintage as a tape.

[Kreatorkind]

whywontyoulisten, on 09 February 2012 - 06:50 AM, said:

I still have my Walkman. :happy:/>

:lol:/> I have several... I don't know if any of them work....

[Deleted User Account]

Fernando, on 15 February 2012 - 04:18 PM, said:

that's why I said CD is almost as vintage as a tape.

Still wrong, friend.

MonteLDS, on 15 February 2012 - 03:29 PM, said:

i think it would be cool that you might get a copy of this tape but someone else gets this tape.

I want the tape with The Vigil on it.

[LostSoul]

I could care less if it is late. We got Gish & SD practically on-time (a month short, but he did give us notice for once). I'm still enjoying those. In fact, I have yet to watch the DVDs because I live in an apartment and can't fully enjoy it. Billy may be my favorite artist and songwriter of all time, but I don't dwell on his every move. My mind won't implode because a release is pushed back...:rolleyes:/>

This will be a good year either way. PI, MCIS, TAFH and Adore re-issues. Pretty awesome. Maybe we won't get Adore till next year, but that is still salivating. And then, Oceania is a bonus. It'll be a good year, over before we know it. Just enjoy the ride...

[soniclovenoize]

ArticulateEric, on 15 February 2012 - 11:36 AM, said:

The difference being CD's are on there way out, and cassettes have been out of date for over a decade.. and that's being generous.

I'm not saying you're wrong here, and I'm definitely not defending Fernando, but tapes are coming back for a certain demographic. I have friend-bands who are releasing cassettes, as there is a market for it, and that's their target audience. They completely sold out of the first pressing actually.

I'd say this is a reaction to the "digital movement", kids now-a-days are trying to find a more lo-fi aesthetic. There are more and more independent labels that put out cassettes, and apparently a large audience who buys them. Just as well, the cost of blank tapes are going up, which is pissing me off.

[Bountiful_Wasteland]

So.....
https://twitter.com/...435110611173376

http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/board_new/public/style_emoticons/default/scatch.gif

[Arachnea]

What is with the scratchy emoticon? David Wild is the guy Billy asked to write the liner notes for Gish and SD, and now Billy has asked him to do the rest of them.

[ButterflyBullets]

Arachnea, on 19 February 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

What is with the scratchy emoticon? David Wild is the guy Billy asked to write the liner notes for Gish and SD, and now Billy has asked him to do the rest of them.

Cool, I enjoyed reading them :cheers:/>

[SarcasticHead]

fuck the cassettes

[Bountiful_Wasteland]

Arachnea, on 19 February 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

What is with the scratchy emoticon? David Wild is the guy Billy asked to write the liner notes for Gish and SD, and now Billy has asked him to do the rest of them.

Just wondering how much longer it will be. I think they got together 4 months before the release of Gish and Siamese Dream. I'm also curious if they'll cover all the notes for the rest of the reissues this year too....
...http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/board_new/public/style_emoticons/default/scatch.gif

[Arachnea]

Since the PI reissue was pushed back from its original release date, which was supposed to be record store day on April 21st, I would wager that it will come out late spring to mid summer. Which means that they have a good amount of time to get the liner notes ready before pressing. I would assume that they will handle each reissue liner notes as it comes closer to its deadline rather than all at once.

[ButterflyBullets]

Wait, it was pushed back? :rant:/>

[hotoriousDICK]

i HOPE HOPE! for PI billy keeps the original liner notes! Those writings made the album so special for me. Made me feel like i was there while they wrote or record the songs. Please oh PLEASE keep the liner notes in tact! NO changes... ADD whatever but TAKE AWAY nothing.

[RottingApples]

Bountiful_Wasteland, on 19 February 2012 - 07:41 PM, said:

So.....
https://twitter.com/...435110611173376

Someone should ask a quality question.

[CoolAsIceCream]

hotoriousDICK, on 19 February 2012 - 11:33 PM, said:

i HOPE HOPE! for PI billy keeps the original liner notes! Those writings made the album so special for me. Made me feel like i was there while they wrote or record the songs. Please oh PLEASE keep the liner notes in tact! NO changes... ADD whatever but TAKE AWAY nothing.

why do you care so much? it's not like all copies of the original release will suddenly disappear.

[jaggedjunkie21]

The cassette thing would be a cool collectible. I'd never listen to it, but that's besides the point, IMO.

[ShamanO]

Arachnea, on 19 February 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

What is with the scratchy emoticon? David Wild is the guy Billy asked to write the liner notes for Gish and SD, and now Billy has asked him to do the rest of them.

ok, so who is he though?

the guy found a bunch of quotes from the Gish and Siamese Dream years and added it to the booklet. He must be a super fan. Did he at least ask Billy some things to add to the booklets too?

[Arachnea]

ShamanO, on 20 February 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

ok, so who is he though?

the guy found a bunch of quotes from the Gish and Siamese Dream years and added it to the booklet. He must be a super fan. Did he at least ask Billy some things to add to the booklets too?

He writes, or at least used to, for Rolling Stone magazine as a music critic. I did not think his liner notes are all that interesting but Billy seems to like him.

[ShamanO]

they were picked out from different interviews right? is that the norm for linear notes? and why didn't Billy do his own? I honestly don't like the idea of some non band member writing them up. but then again they are reissues, not originals so maybe it's the thing to do.

[Arachnea]

Are they from old interviews or articles? I thought he was writing them fresh after his interview with Billy. I felt unsure about having a person not related to the band in any way write the opening liner notes as well. I think someone else would have been more suitable, someone more involved with the band, like Joe Shanahan or a producer like Vig. Butch Vig seems more appropriate since he produced both Gish and Siamese Dream.

[CoolAsIceCream]

ShamanO, on 20 February 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

they were picked out from different interviews right? is that the norm for linear notes? and why didn't Billy do his own? I honestly don't like the idea of some non band member writing them up. but then again they are reissues, not originals so maybe it's the thing to do.

linear notes? EH?

they often take someone else to write up a little overview for reissues. i've seen it on many releases.

[frosty]

well, that's just stupid. why don't i get my neighbor to write something up for them? he wasn't in the band either.

[hotoriousDICK]

david wild i think has done a lot of liner notes for greatest hits and reissues if i'm not mistaken.