[andrewface]

ShamanO, on 24 March 2012 - 10:49 AM, said:

what sucks is when someone tries to say "hey listen to my music I'm so good" and really it is a pile of shit and you feel like you wasted your time listening to it, you dont ever want to hear anything from them again and you know they won't ever make it anywhere beyond 2 fans-unless those 2 fans are just being "nice"

check out my band www.animalfarmmusic.com

[AndyToe]

ShamanO, on 24 March 2012 - 10:49 AM, said:

what sucks is when someone tries to say "hey listen to my music I'm so good" and really it is a pile of shit and you feel like you wasted your time listening to it, you dont ever want to hear anything from them again and you know they won't ever make it anywhere beyond 2 fans-unless those 2 fans are just being "nice"

this is why i will never listen to an oboarders music again, or a friends. it's almost always crap

[pastup]

RottingApples, on 24 March 2012 - 10:35 AM, said:

I find his repeated comments on putting down the "Laptop-driven" music/ method of current musicians to be uncalled for and offensive. Yes, there are plenty of those electro/ dub-y music made by people fucking around in Garageband, but the tools that are available to people today, the quality they can achieve, and at a fraction of the cost of a studio have allowed countless bands/ musicians the opportunity to create and preserve music that was not available in any generation beyond 5-6 years ago. How many great bands that existed in the past we will never hear because they did not get lucky/ have the funds/ whatever to get signed or go into a studio to record. Now it's available to everyone, (yes, including the bad and untalented), but also definitely including all the talented musicians out there as well. I'd imagine Billy himself would have been one of the "laptop musicians" in the 80s had the tools been around back then. What's to be ashamed of making great music with/on/through your computer? I think it's a bullshit putdown.

At first I thought he meant laptop rock as in made with laptops but in one of these interviews he said he meant it as in music that you can listen to on your laptop while doing other things. Laptops nowadays are capable of doing anything a keyboard can do and more and Billy's not anti-keyboard.

[RottingApples]

pastup, on 24 March 2012 - 11:53 AM, said:

At first I thought he meant laptop rock as in made with laptops but in one of these interviews he said he meant it as in music that you can listen to on your laptop while doing other things. Laptops nowadays are capable of doing anything a keyboard can do and more and Billy's not anti-keyboard.

I would hope that would be what he was referring to, but I've never heard him make that distinction. Given how much he's put down current bands, and the digital means of making music, it was a logical assumption.

[rosenkreuzer]

ugh. please just a normal release; no experiences anymore.
and DONT use the internet of the fans for that.
i mean look at this crap website or netphoria.

just release the album and have some nice artwork on it, corgan.

merci.

[Arachnea]

ShamanO, on 24 March 2012 - 11:04 AM, said:

in regards to when it seems like they just learned how to barely strum a guitar, attempt to sing, and add drums that can't even flow with the songs what so ever, yes. that's what I'm referring to.

Hey, it worked for the Sex Pistols ;)/>

[Raoul]

Arachnea, on 24 March 2012 - 01:35 PM, said:

Hey, it worked for the Sex Pistols ;)/>

Thats not true - Glan Matlock, Paul Cook & Steve Jones were excellent players of their instruments. The only one who couldn't play was Sid when he took over for Glen, and that was when they all the pieces had fallen apart and unravelling - and Sid played a massive part in that.

It's a massive misconception that the Sex Pistols were shit players - totally not true - people just think that because all the hangeroner's in that scene couldn't. But they definitely could

[Deleted User Account]

Raoul, on 24 March 2012 - 03:11 PM, said:

Thats not true - Glan Matlock, Paul Cook & Steve Jones were excellent players of their instruments. The only one who couldn't play was Sid when he took over for Glen, and that was when they all the pieces had fallen apart and unravelling - and Sid played a massive part in that.

It's a massive misconception that the Sex Pistols were shit players - totally not true - people just think that because all the hangeroner's in that scene couldn't. But they definitely could

Thank you. The litmus test for poseurs is to find people who champion Sid. Bro sucked, but that Sex Pistols album Never Mind the Bollocks is great.

[JSapp]

Steve Jones was an amazing guitarist. He was really influential in the punk guitar sound. He actually worked as a studio musician after the Pistols.

[Arachnea]

Guys, it was a dumb joke on my end (hence the winking emoticon). I know they were talented and as a punk music fan I have had to defend them from the common misconception that they were talentless hacks.

[JSapp]

I thought it was a good chance to talk about what an awesome group they were. What could have been had they stayed together

[Arachnea]

In that case, carry on :cheers:/>

[Raoul]

Its funny though, heaps of people do actually think they couldn't play though. Never mind the bollocks is one of the most perfect recordings going round. It's a rare thing found in the punk discography for an album to be so poppy in its musical perfection but also so well produced to really capture that anarchic punk feel. I've always been really surprised out how well they pulled it off, if you read stories about how they lived their lives around that time and all the bullshit they had to put up with - it's unbelievable how good that album turned out. One of the best, if not THE best, rock stories going round

[JSapp]

He anyone watched The Great Rock n Roll Swindle? I used to have it along time ago but it disappeared. It was extremely forward thinking in its production. For all his flaws as a human being (and he had plenty) Malcolm McClarin knew how to market a band.

I also love the Clash. One of my all time favorite bands up there with SP to me. Sometimes wonder if the Pistols would have progressed musicly on future albums like the Clash did

[dudehitscar]

JSapp, on 25 March 2012 - 04:09 AM, said:

He anyone watched The Great Rock n Roll Swindle? I used to have it along time ago but it disappeared. It was extremely forward thinking in its production. For all his flaws as a human being (and he had plenty) Malcolm McClarin knew how to market a band.

I also love the Clash. One of my all time favorite bands up there with SP to me. Sometimes wonder if the Pistols would have progressed musicly on future albums like the Clash did

The person who made great rock and roll swindle felt bad about the negative impression it made on the band so he made Filth and The Fury to tell the whole story. It is by far the best music documentary I've seen. I love john lydon, and the sex pistols. Have you seen that movie?


I like the clash a lot too.

[JSapp]

Yeah I have and I thought it was a great documentary about the band. RnR swindle I like more as its early use of music videos I don't see it as a documentary, just a movie that stars musicians. Have you seen Clash, west way to the world? It's awesome too

[adamdanger!]

Looking at the title of this thread makes me laugh. Announcements....Lol.

[CoolAsIceCream]

Quote

Smashing Pumpkins frontman Billy Corgan will use next week’s South By Southwest as a springboard to announce the band’s latest album, Oceania, which promises to be a “full online experience.”

“Our aim is to turn the ‘social’ into a new way to experience an album,” Corgan told Mashable. “By taking the medium one step further we will create an experience with Oceania online and off-line that transcends the single and the single mentality in all ways.”

Corgan plans to outline his vision of the album (plus the release date) during a session moderated by Altimeter Group Principal Brian Solis.

Corgan says that the Pumpkins plan to “[bring] back the album experience through fan engagement in a whole new way with Oceania.” He added that the band is, ‘Working closely with Superfans as gatekeepers to help interaction on a fan-to fan level by promoting their Smashing Pumpkins related blogs and enlisting their help in maintaining a few official Smashing Pumpkins social media sites.”

Corgan declined to be more specific and his publicist was vague about how, exactly, Oceania will be distributed.

“The concept that we’re not releasing this record like normal at all,” she said. “The key is that when we release the record, we’re not going to release single a viral video. You’re going to take the record a have a full online experience with it.”

When asked if that meant Oceania‘s tracks would not be sold separately on iTunes, Corgan’s rep declined comment.

This isn’t the first time that Corgan has experimented with new formats for his music. In 2009, he announced Teargarden by Kaleidyscope, a 44-track opus that he planned to make available for free on the Internet. According to reports, Oceania is an “album within an album” on Teagarden.

so did anyone notice this whole new album experience that was announced?
absolutely groundbreaking, anyone?

excuse me while i roll my eyes!
but if someone wants to explain what is so special about the oceania release, please be my guest.

[davidp2007]

CoolAsIceCream, on 05 July 2012 - 10:41 PM, said:

so did anyone notice this whole new album experience that was announced?
absolutely groundbreaking, anyone?

excuse me while i roll my eyes!
but if someone wants to explain what is so special about the oceania release, please be my guest.

Not really sure. Instead of one place it streaming in full (ie spinner or whatever), it was several places. Not that groundbreaking I know. He did do the commentary intros for each side on soundcloud, but a lot of people have done commentaries for albums. Imagine Oceania maybe? I don't know, though the pic one by JPEG magazine seems to be the only one that had a prize, correct?

I'm not sure they are talking about the stage setup they have planned for the Australian shows and onward, where they will be playing the whole new album in order, then new material. Obviously they were inspired by Roger Waters' The Wall stage setup (since they got the guy who did that to work on theirs).

[frednirv632]

"We have this record dropping in March. As a rule this band is bored of the traditional system of drop a record, play behind the record, same old song and dance. Around March you'll start seeing us again, we're not sure how exactly we'll promote the record but it'll be something extravagant."

www.musicradar.com/rhythm/mike-byrne-talks-smashing-pumpkins-rabid-fandom-and-click-tracks-523505/2

lol.