[Hyrrow]

Sophie, on 29 February 2012 - 01:39 AM, said:

True and... untrue! ;)/>

Plenty of people have stated here that they didn't care about Oceania anymore, and that all the excitement had gone, but a single article online about a future anouncement generated a hundred of posts in row in this very thread within a few hours (and one should take into account time difference!).

Isn't it ironic...don't you think? :p/>

It's like RAAAAAIAAAAAAAIN on your wedding day

[Sophie]

Hyrrow, on 29 February 2012 - 03:52 AM, said:

It's like RAAAAAIAAAAAAAIN on your wedding day

Precisely :D/>

[cleric]

Sophie, on 29 February 2012 - 01:39 AM, said:

True and... untrue! ;)/>

Plenty of people have stated here that they didn't care about Oceania anymore, and that all the excitement had gone, but a single article online about a future anouncement generated a hundred of posts in row in this very thread within a few hours (and one should take into account time difference!).

Isn't it ironic...don't you think? :p/>

i just agreed with a sophie post. :unsure:/>

[BitterRootOfSelf]

Why do people care about SP being mainstream popular again. Thats so lame in my opinion. Do you really want to see Billy all over tv Commercials, on the radio after some American idol artists song, and playing alongside Deadmau5 at the Grammys? I don't want that, I would rather have some awesome original music and small theater shows with USB recordings after. The online experience thing whatever could be really cool. I'm looking forward to putting on my nice headphones and chilling uninterupted for an hour and maybe watching some cool visuals.

[Dawn2Dusk]

Release via Myspace's new music player!

[Sophie]

cleric, on 29 February 2012 - 05:02 AM, said:

i just agreed with a sophie post. :unsure:/>

[FadedNite]

I suspect there will be a pre-order online option of the album and the fans will get the following:

1. The album will stream in its entirety accompanied by visuals.
2. The fans will get a shipped physical release in a week or so.

[CoolAsIceCream]

yeah, because such a thing has never been done before. right?

[Hyrrow]

I don't understand why anyone is upset over the online stuff...
Oceania will be released as a physical cd for whoever wants it that way for their precious collection.
So what's the prob?

Hello manonkouch!

[V_____]

marquisinspades, on 29 February 2012 - 01:33 AM, said:

If I had to make a list of reasons why I'd love to live in the US, SXSW would be right up there.

“By taking the medium one step further we will create an experience with Oceania online and off-line that transcends the single and the single mentality in all ways.”

Call me long in the tooth, but what we are saying is that none of the tracks stand out as a viable single.

While I'll reserve judgement on this direction, I will just say that there are loads of bands that only release LP's nowadays. I can quite happily live without any more physical single releases. Have you seen the state of the singles charts since, well, like forever?

Please, just put the song teasers online, then make it available as a digital and physical LP.

I have a horrible feeling the first listens will be by email invite and we'll have to sit in a virtual chat room with idiots talking over the music. 'everyone mute your mic or die!!!'

Actually, if there's no viable single that is good news. Billy's singles are usually my least favorite songs.

[Lunatic]

SP Fans - Shooting down new ideas since 1988.

[ShamanO]

marquisinspades, on 29 February 2012 - 01:33 AM, said:

I have a horrible feeling the first listens will be by email invite and we'll have to sit in a virtual chat room with idiots talking over the music. 'everyone mute your mic or die!!!'

God I freakin hope that's not the case.

Parksey, on 29 February 2012 - 03:38 AM, said:

fuck you, billy

just release the album already

people will respond to good music, that's the way it works, they don't care about some bullshit, interactive online event

if anything, this will alienate more people than it will attract; hipsters don't care about online videos

cheers

ffs

not every fan is a hipster!

[Gr3g3]

Complaining about an idea you haven't heard yet? :crazy:/>

[ShamanO]

Gr3g3, on 29 February 2012 - 10:04 AM, said:

Complaining about an idea you haven't heard yet? :crazy:/>

if no one complained then everyone would wonder wtf is going on with the fans! :whattodo:/>

we're damned if we complain, we are damned if we don't complain. WHERE THE HELL IS THE THE MIDDLE GROUND?

[MonteLDS]

I think the middle ground is saying "umm, alright-"

[CoolAsIceCream]

Gr3g3, on 29 February 2012 - 10:04 AM, said:

Complaining about an idea you haven't heard yet? :crazy:/>

don't you :crazy:/> us!
complaining seems to be the more rational reaction in this situation, compared to thinking this might not be so bad.

[ShamanO]

MonteLDS, on 29 February 2012 - 10:30 AM, said:

I think the middle ground is saying "umm, alright-"

and we would all get the wtf is wrong with the fanbase if we said that!

we got to have extremes if we didn't then we would not be proper tru fans :lick:/>

[Gr3g3]

Middle ground is waiting until the idea Revealed.

[ShamanO]

Gr3g3, on 29 February 2012 - 10:42 AM, said:

Middle ground is waiting until the idea Revealed.

but you all would be bored if we only waited and said absolutely nothing.

bring on the extremes!

lets try and figure out how this online experience will be.

Will it be something never been done before? It has to be right?

[RottingApples]

ShamanO, on 29 February 2012 - 10:38 AM, said:

and we would all get the wtf is wrong with the fanbase if we said that!

So if no one cares about us, then who exactly would be saying that about us?

[ShamanO]

those evil music bloggers? :scatch:/>

[RottingApples]

ShamanO, on 29 February 2012 - 10:51 AM, said:

those evil music bloggers? :scatch:/>

Since when? They barely care about the band, let alone the fans.

[ShamanO]

ok if we all said nothing HipstersUnited or Pitchfork (for example) would probably blog about the fan base not being interested in the project

[Deleted User Account]

ShamanO, on 29 February 2012 - 11:18 AM, said:

ok if we all said nothing HipstersUnited or Pitchfork (for example) would probably blog about the fan base not being interested in the project

HipstersUnited is a news source for the faithful. It doesn't matter. Pitchfork doesn't report on the Pumpkins anymore, as far as I've seen. They stopped with the monstrosity of Song For A Son.

Really, IMO, if Oceania ruled, the best way to promote it would be by sending it to the music blogs to create buzz. I mean, that is, if it really is Corgan's best since 1995. No goofball announcements of announcements, just pure excitement based off of the music. Post a Youtube video of SP playing one of the new songs live in studio.

If the music is as good/commercial as Corgan has been saying it is, then it will speak for itself.

[ShamanO]

yes sir mr. articulate

but what I'm saying is if we all went quiet and had nothing to say HU would speculate that we are not interested, what if the internet went down and the phones (not likely, but I would hope your articulate self would get the point here)...we'd be cast off as not giving a shit about it.

[cleric]

yes, your friend mr articulate knows the best way to promote music. glad you agree with him. :crazy:/>

[ShamanO]

I'm not agreeing with him maybe I should have added this :salute:/> or an all hail hitler emoticon if we had one

[cleric]

i see. that's ok then. :happy:/>

[chrisothoulos]

Parksey, on 29 February 2012 - 03:38 AM, said:

fuck you, billy

just release the album already

people will respond to good music, that's the way it works, they don't care about some bullshit, interactive online event

if anything, this will alienate more people than it will attract; hipsters don't care about online videos

cheers

ffs

Patience is a virtue

[breathesgelatin]

ShamanO, on 29 February 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

yes sir mr. articulate

but what I'm saying is if we all went quiet and had nothing to say HU would speculate that we are not interested, what if the internet went down and the phones (not likely, but I would hope your articulate self would get the point here)...we'd be cast off as not giving a shit about it.

We would?

Usually if people don't say anything we assume they're happy/satisfied.

[ShamanO]

when has that happened?

[MaxR]

https://twitter.com/.../BCAnnoucements

[Drevpile]

CoolAsIceCream, on 29 February 2012 - 06:46 AM, said:

remember when it was all about the music?
oh, and integrity too.

ha!

I remember, then Jimmy left :(/>

[MonteLDS]

MaxR, on 29 February 2012 - 12:51 PM, said:

https://twitter.com/.../BCAnnoucements

so someone created an account to antagonize the way the band makes an announcement so fans don't feel so left in the dark. :what:/>

[Simon Belmont]

:popcorn:/>

[ShamanO]

Simon Belmont, on 29 February 2012 - 01:28 PM, said:

:popcorn:/>

this means things are going to get juicy in this thread when I go to work...damn

[Gr3g3]

MaxR, on 29 February 2012 - 12:51 PM, said:

https://twitter.com/.../BCAnnoucements

I would laugh...if the account was funny...

[Simon Belmont]

MonteLDS, on 29 February 2012 - 01:23 PM, said:

so someone created an account to antagonize the way the band makes an announcement so fans don't feel so left in the dark. :what:/>

You may have all of the inside information, but the rest of us, regardless of how many announcements of announcements of announcements are made....we always seem to be left in the dark. We've all gotten sick of waiting around for over a year with absolutely no updates...I've all but totally lost interest at this point, and I never thought I would say that about a new SP album, but enough is enough. I'm not saying we're entitled to know every little development that takes place, but don't build up the album for months, then just drop off the face of the earth for a year and expect us to still be excited about it. It's gotten tiresome.

[Gr3g3]

Simon Belmont, on 29 February 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

You may have all of the inside information, but the rest of us, regardless of how many announcements of announcements of announcements are made....we always seem to be left in the dark. We've all gotten sick of waiting around for over a year with absolutely no updates...I've all but totally lost interest at this point, and I never thought I would say that about a new SP album, but enough is enough. I'm not saying we're entitled to know every little development that takes place, but don't build up the album for months, then just drop off the face of the earth for a year and expect us to still be excited about it. It's gotten tiresome.

I understand, I'm in the dark too. But I'm offended as a fan of humor. Such a lame account. Show me something funny, I'll appreciate it ala your Oceania covers.

[Simon Belmont]

Gr3g3, on 29 February 2012 - 02:05 PM, said:

I understand, I'm in the dark too. But I'm offended as a fan of humor. Such a lame account. Show me something funny, I'll appreciate it ala your Oceania covers.

:lol:/> Sorry man. I have a lot of venting to catch up on...I've been biting my tongue for 3 years. Back to the lulz later.

This post has been edited by Simon Belmont: 29 February 2012 - 02:10 PM

[Arachnea]

This was posted by the folks at HU:

Quote

HU asked a contact with the band to clarify the typo-marred quotation attributed by Mashable to a publicist. We received the following statement in response, attributed to the “Smashing Pumpkins Digital Team

It sounds like he is going to go all bjork's biophilia on us. It is only a matter of time before the app comes out.

[Simon Belmont]

Arachnea, on 29 February 2012 - 02:12 PM, said:

This was posted by the folks at HU:
"

It sounds like he is going to go all bjork's biophilia on us. It is only a matter of time before the app comes out.

Ugh...how many times have we been through this same dance now? It's not going to go as planned, and it will be our fault, then Billy will get pissed and tear the whole site down, and a year from now he'll start a new album attached to a new gimmick, just release the album, no bonuses, no trinkets, no websites, no apps, no "free", no "social aspects" (whatever the hell that means), no special release format, just release the good, solid album we all know you're capable of if only you spent half the time in the studio that you do coming up with new marketing techniques.

...and I used to be the positive one on this fucking board!! :banghead:/>

This post has been edited by Simon Belmont: 29 February 2012 - 02:19 PM

[cleric]

woah, easy there, Freebird Crybaby. you'll hear it soon. no need to complain.

[Simon Belmont]

cleric, on 29 February 2012 - 02:24 PM, said:

woah, easy there, Freebird Crybaby. you'll hear it soon. no need to complain.

Still on that, are we?