[strott]

Hi everyone, I've been lurking on this incarnation of the O-board for a long long time (it doesn't matter, but I used to go by Munchkinhausen in the Machina days a million years ago). But I just want to get something off my chest about Zeitgeist.

I know this topic has come up many, many, many times before, but every time I read one of the recent BC interviews that gets posted where he mentions Zeitgeist, I get annoyed. He always talks about how he wanted to give us what we wanted, but makes the fans seems almost ungrateful for not liking it, for not appreciating the gift. I love the music, what the lyrics say, the level of energy, and the songs as a whole when I saw them live, but I hate the vocal layering on the album. I remember seeing someone call it the Wall of Billies, which I think is the perfect description for it. The vocals are the only thing that get to me (and probably most people) about Zeitgeist. Personally the vocals are what keep me from listening to Zeitgeist regularly. Nothing else. To put it more simply, it is not an album that I can listen to wearing headphones because the vocals are so distracting.

I know that the BC likes to use the layering style for his vocal, and that's fine, and the result is good in all other cases. I personally think the vocals on Zeitgeist are like getting smashed in the face. The excessive echoing kills me (ie 1:08 on Doomsday, 0:18 on 7 shades, etc., all the songs have it, you guys know). It is unlike every other SP recording in that respect. On all the others, BC uses the layering as more of an emphasis, and almost like an instrument. On Zeitgeist, it needed to be toned down and wasn't. I would generalize the dislike as people don't like Zeitgeist because the vocals sound sooo exaggerated/over the top/off-putting/distasteful. But, that doesn't mean it couldn't still be a great album with a little love.

The thing that really gets me is he keeps bringing it up, saying that we hated Zeitgeist, but at the same time he hasn't asked for a proverbial "do over". I would love to get a reworked version of Zeitgeist with less obtrusive vocals. If he really always wanted to give fans what we wanted, he would rework Zeitgeist out of sequence as a re-release sooner than later. If that's not something he is interested in, for whatever reason, then why not pull a Trent Reznor and release the Zeitgeist audio files for people to remix and play with. Put it back on us to make a better mix of the album. I bet there is an awesome mix hiding in the sound. Hell, he is always saying that he's looking for a better way to interact with the fans through the net, why not just turn the whole community loose on Zeitgeist and see what pops out. That would be an excellent experiment.

tl;dr BC, stop putting the blame the fans for not being grateful for Zeitgeist. If the response Zeitgeist got/gets still bugs you, I say proactively do something about it. Don't just let it sit there an languish, any longer, it needs a remix.

Sorry if all that comes off as negative, I'm just trying to be constructive and supportive with my opinion.

[Inertia]

I sorta like this vocal style. It challenges your patience.

[thruEYESruby]

Strott,

I completely agree. The vocals are the only complaint I ever really had with the album. The music itself and the songs I enjoy. I hope when the rights bounce back to Billy in 2014 and he rereleases Zeitgeist that we get a reworked version, because honesty imo Zeitgeist could be a great album with some tweeking. The drums and guitar work are amazing. Thats my opinion at least.

[ZivotSon]

You are entitled to your opinion. Everything is subjective when critiquing art and there are no wrong opinions. Personally, I think there's a lot of problems with the album aside from the vocals. Indeed, had he called the album "Shitfest", I think it would have described most of the record fairly accurately. Only the drumming really met my expectations, which weren't that high by the way. There's three or four strong songs, all recorded/mixed/mastered (take your pick) awfully.

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of that one.

[Human Sauce]

As much as I respect Roy Thomas Baker, his production style on Zeitgeist is what ultimately downgrades the album for me. Not a good fit.

[strott]

@thruEYESruby
I think he should be a little more agressive with trying to do something even in the near term. I wonder how many copies of the album will be sitting there on the shelf never to be sold. I also wonder what the weekly sales of Zeitgeist look like. They have to be tracking something like that. I would be cool if a purchase of the album gave you access to a website where you could adjust the levels of the various audio tracks, and allow you to listen to it in new ways. I bet that would be a pretty easy site to create actually. It could be some blissful HTML5.

@ZivotSon
lol, I thought I was being harsh. So you don't you think that the album could be upgraded to a better experience, and that it's just hosed?

[ZivotSon]

I think there's only one song that to me could have been significantly improved had the vocals been done right and that's 7 Shades of Black. Otherwise, the problem lies with it just being a subpar collection of songs, generally. If the vocals were perfect, it wouldn't lift many songs from the forgettable category.

[frednirv632]

ZivotSon, on 17 July 2012 - 03:03 PM, said:

Only the drumming really met my expectations, which weren't that high by the way.

why the low expectation for JIMMY CHAMBERLIN? His work has always been top notch.

[ZivotSon]

Wasn't referring to Jimmy. My expectations weren't that high for the record due to Zwan and TFE not being that great. Jimmy's drumming was massive.

[frednirv632]

My apologies, I misunderstood. I just wasn't about to let someone diss the only saving grace of Zeitgeist.

[Carnage]

Personally, the album should be remixed, remastered (properly) and perhaps some of the vocals re-recorded if they can't be fixed.

[nasalscarecrow]

I have nothing against Z's production, though I'd be interested to hear a remix.

[DownInAHole]

Speaking of Zeitgeist, if anyone is interested the Best Buy version with the bonus tracks and dvd is on amazon for about $5.50, shipping included:

http://www.amazon.co...8&condition=new

[thebeatle]

ZivotSon, on 17 July 2012 - 03:03 PM, said:

You are entitled to your opinion. Everything is subjective when critiquing art and there are no wrong opinions. Personally, I think there's a lot of problems with the album aside from the vocals. Indeed, had he called the album "Shitfest", I think it would have described most of the record fairly accurately. Only the drumming really met my expectations, which weren't that high by the way. There's three or four strong songs, all recorded/mixed/mastered (take your pick) awfully.

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of that one.

^this

Also, about the RTB thing, didnt he only produce one song on the album? I would attribute this aural abomination more toward Billy trying to overcompensate for the songs being generally bad, with over-production. I honestly cant even listen to more than 3 songs from this stinker anymore.

On top of that, the 19 billion different colored versions really rubbed me(and im sure some of you) the wrong way. Sadly this is the only pumpkins album I wish I could get my money back from.

[strott]

Personally I really appreciate more of the prog-metal/stoner rock quality of the music on Z. I like what BC was going for as far as the sound, especially when juxtaposed what we were (and still are) living with at the time with the Conservatives fucking everything up. Look at the shitshow we have right now. The Conservatives have done a fantastic job of destroying everything they have touched and we should be pissed, now more than ever.

As a whole the album is probably the most energetic album released under the SP name. The music has anger and an edge to it. It's not about being depressed, disillusioned, angsty, being a weirdo, being artistic, etc. It's not the sort of sound and subject matter that made all their other music more relatable to their stereotypical fan base. I don't give a shit that BC gave the finger to the hipsters, downers, and the cool kids who didn't used to be cool. BC is right, the nerd clique has taken over alt rock and it's bullshit.

As far as calling it an abomination, I think that is really unfair, so help me understand. Zeitgeist has a sound that generally lines up with An Ode to No One, Boys Fear to Tread, Bodies, Scorched Earth, XYU and Everlasting Gaze. The Z songs are very similar tempo wise. Maybe it's the lack of the classic BC screaming vocals? I mean does it piss people off that there aren't any "chick songs" (sorry for the term) or pop songs on there? The album does have an extremely masculine feel to it (minus Love Is, Neverlost). Is that the turnoff? Do people think it should it have been more androgenized? The sound production on Z is definitely more crisp and less muddy/fuzzy than on other albums. Is that the turnoff?

I don't know guys. I still think it starts and ends at the vocal production, and how the vocals overshadows the music in all cases. And more precisely, it's the backing vocals. The music was pushed into the background. The reality is that the instruments need to be brought forward (especially some bass) and the vocals need to be pushed back and delayered. I think it would be an enjoyable album with the music as is, but as an instrumental dub.

Imagine a version of Z with Nicole doing the backing vocals. Wouldn't that be fantastic?

[monkeysnot]

strott, on 18 July 2012 - 05:21 AM, said:

Personally I really appreciate more of the prog-metal/stoner rock quality of the music on Z. I like what BC was going for as far as the sound, especially when juxtaposed what we were (and still are) living with at the time with the Conservatives fucking everything up. Look at the shitshow we have right now. The Conservatives have done a fantastic job of destroying everything they have touched and we should be pissed, now more than ever.

As a whole the album is probably the most energetic album released under the SP name. The music has anger and an edge to it. It's not about being depressed, disillusioned, angsty, being a weirdo, being artistic, etc. It's not the sort of sound and subject matter that made all their other music more relatable to their stereotypical fan base. I don't give a shit that BC gave the finger to the hipsters, downers, and the cool kids who didn't used to be cool. BC is right, the nerd clique has taken over alt rock and it's bullshit.

As far as calling it an abomination, I think that is really unfair, so help me understand. Zeitgeist has a sound that generally lines up with An Ode to No One, Boys Fear to Tread, Bodies, Scorched Earth, XYU and Everlasting Gaze. The Z songs are very similar tempo wise. Maybe it's the lack of the classic BC screaming vocals? I mean does it piss people off that there aren't any "chick songs" (sorry for the term) or pop songs on there? The album does have an extremely masculine feel to it (minus Love Is, Neverlost). Is that the turnoff? Do people think it should it have been more androgenized? The sound production on Z is definitely more crisp and less muddy/fuzzy than on other albums. Is that the turnoff?

I don't know guys. I still think it starts and ends at the vocal production, and how the vocals overshadows the music in all cases. And more precisely, it's the backing vocals. The music was pushed into the background. The reality is that the instruments need to be brought forward (especially some bass) and the vocals need to be pushed back and delayered. I think it would be an enjoyable album with the music as is, but as an instrumental dub.

Imagine a version of Z with Nicole doing the backing vocals. Wouldn't that be fantastic?

Could have been an okay post if you weren't stupid enough to blame everything on Conservatives. Hahahaha. Ridiculous.

Zeitgeist was a let down and had very little to no lasting value. Remix the vocals and I'm there.

[dead eyes]

There's no need for remixing.
It is what it is and I think it's pretty good.
Don't forget: There were only the two of them to record it.
The vocals are good, in tune, clear, even more then ever before (and maybe after).
The backing vocals are so good, that it even confuses some people.

[soVerysadAboutyou]

aw now you've done it. you've angered everyone. seriously, i like zeitgeist just fine. it doesn't quite measure up with the older albums, but so fucking what, nothing does. and death from above is one of the coolest songs ever.

[adamdanger!]

So I was impressed with Oceania initially but have been getting kind of bored with it. Went back to Zeitgeist and was surprised at how much more energy the songs have (tired vocals aside).

[dudehitscar]

The vocals hurt it the most but I don't think a remaster job would suddenly turn the crap songs into good ones. Come on let's go is bad all around for example. The album lyrically never connected with me. I mean does anyone have an emotional connection to the lyrics of tarantula? And that's one of the better songs.

[strott]

monkeysnot, on 18 July 2012 - 06:22 AM, said:

Could have been an okay post if you weren't stupid enough to blame everything on Conservatives. Hahahaha. Ridiculous.

Zeitgeist was a let down and had very little to no lasting value. Remix the vocals and I'm there.

Good job on the name calling buddy, did you think that up all on your own? Isn't that cute. You must be one of them!

[Razorstar]

I won't be popular for this opinion, but I also think the drums are way to high in the mix. It's like they're saying "HEY, WE HAVE THE BEST DRUMMER EVER, LISTEN!!", but the mix means the drums sometimes swamp the songs instead of setving them.

American Gothic has the exact same issue, including the vocals.

[QuasarRightOn]

Human Sauce, on 17 July 2012 - 03:06 PM, said:

As much as I respect Roy Thomas Baker, his production style on Zeitgeist is what ultimately downgrades the album for me. Not a good fit.

Altogether, Roy only co-produced two 'Zeitgeist' tracks ("Starz" and "Bring The Light"), and another song from the subsequent 'American Gothic' E.P. ("Again, Again, Again (The Crux)"). Roy's influence is the layering of vocals, yes, but the otherwise bludgeoning-heaviness is courtesy of the other co-producer Terry Date (Soundgarden, Pantera, White Zombie, etc.).

I take 'Zeitgeist' for what it is. I played the shit out of that album for a better part of year afterwards. Definitely the heaviest-sounding Pumpkins album yet. What I dig that Roy Thomas Baker did was help Billy find his inner Brian May on the incredible guitar solo for "Bring The Light". Brilliant work there. Terry Date is almost too heavy at times. Not to saddle him with all of that: JC/BC also handled production duties.

The album's songs may not all be as melodically strong as the new album is, but 'Zeitgeist' also comes off Billy having done Zwan and his solo album. Almost eight years in between original Pumpkins albums.

'Zeitgeist' is radical vocal-wise. I still enjoy spinning that album today.

[ShamanO]

adamdanger!, on 18 July 2012 - 07:10 AM, said:

So I was impressed with Oceania initially but have been getting kind of bored with it. Went back to Zeitgeist and was surprised at how much more energy the songs have (tired vocals aside).

:shocked:/> I want to hear the demos and whatever else he has stashed from that time

[soVerysadAboutyou]

ShamanO, on 18 July 2012 - 10:24 AM, said:

:shocked:/> I want to hear the demos and whatever else he has stashed from that time

from the zwan era on, i cannot fucking wait to hear all that stuff.

[manuglass]

Funny, I also have a problem with Billy's singing on Zeitgesit, but I love the "wall of Billies". I don't mind that, what I hate is bad vocal interpretation, for example, the lack of anger in United States.

[werideatdusk]

I had a lot of fun with this album as a 20-year-old who liked bouncing around to hard rock. For me, it hasn't held up so well.

I think the production as a whole is a problem. The vocal layering is indeed glaring. But also, the lead vocal is painfully loud in the mix, the drums are intensely loud, and the guitars are very biting. Everything is just cranked to 11... listening to the whole album in sequence is a very draining experience.

As far as the songs, there are some decent ones.... "United States" is the clear standout for me. If Billy and Jimmy just wanted to rock really hard, they should have made more songs like US that twist and turn through proggy movements, rather than go for some kind of pop-metal fusion. And, oddly enough, I think "Come On Let's Go" has aged really well, that song has a lot of energy. If it had a different title and lyrics people would give it a lot more credit. "Bring the Light" is really good too, and I also think "Starz", "Neverlost" and "Pomp and Circumstances" are strong additions to the SP canon.

The problem, though, is the lack of GREAT songs. Maybe Neverlost comes closest to true high caliber. But the old SP albums are CHOCK FULL of unforgettable songs, and Zeitgeist, as 'good' as it is, just can't compare.

I don't think a remix will solve that. It would help it be more listenable and blend in better with the classic stuff. And obviously including "Stellar" would up the album a bit.

"Oceania" has much, much more memorable songs with real emotion, not just hard-rock posturing.

And all this coming from someone who defended Zeitgeist quite a bit back in the day!
:shocked:/>

[frednirv632]

Razorstar, on 18 July 2012 - 09:16 AM, said:

I won't be popular for this opinion, but I also think the drums are way to high in the mix.

I have read several people saying this, but I have always thought the opposite. Can you point me to a specific moment where you thing the drum are particularly overwhelming? Neverlost is the one song I could imagine someone having a problem.

[strott]

manuglass, on 18 July 2012 - 11:40 AM, said:

Funny, I also have a problem with Billy's singing on Zeitgesit, but I love the "wall of Billies". I don't mind that, what I hate is bad vocal interpretation, for example, the lack of anger in United States.

I can definitely hear this too. They're almost emotionless, lacking inflection a lot of the time, and are too similar tone-wise across the whole set.

[soonergiant65]

I like Zeitgeist. And when watching SP live, I noticed that they performed the songs (Tarantula, That's The Way, United States) with just as much passion as any of their other songs. None of the arguments about Billy's voice and the production of the record hold any weight in my opinion.

[Pumpkin Patrick]

I regularly listen to Zeitgeist, much more these days than SD, Gish, or even MCIS. (probably cause I've played those so much in the '90s)

It's the album that got me back into SP after a long hiatus and it still reminds me of that feeling I got when an old passion was reborn.

With the many incarnations of tracklists I find that the RED album has the best flow and song to song transitions. I do love Death From Above, Stellar, Ma Belle, and Zeitgeist and found a way to include them without screwing up the transitions.

01. "Doomsday Clock"
02. "7 Shades of Black"
03. "Bleeding the Orchid"
04. "That's the Way (My Love Is)"
05. "Tarantula"
06. "Starz"
07. "United States"
08. "Neverlost"
09. "Death From Above"
10. "Bring the Light"
11. "(Come On) Let's Go!"
12. "For God and Country"
13. "Pomp and Circumstances"
14. "Zeitgeist"
15. "Stellar"
16. "Ma Belle"

Makes for a nice listen.

[ButterflyBullets]

I'll give that a try.

[whywontyoulisten]

I burned a copy with the bonus tracks as they were sequenced originally in the different-coloured Zeitgeists, so:

01. "Doomsday Clock"
02. "7 Shades of Black"
03. "Bleeding the Orchid"
04. "That's the Way (My Love Is)"
05. "Tarantula"
06. "Starz"
07. "United States"
08. "Neverlost"
09. "Death From Above" (Urine Best Buy)
10. "Bring the Light"
11. "(Come On) Let's Go!"
12. "Stellar" (Blue iTunes)
13. "Ma Belle" (Silver Best Buy)
14. "For God and Country"
15. "Pomp and Circumstances"
16. "Zeitgeist" - (Purple Target)

I do enjoy it more than the basic album tracklist. Ending on the title track is probably my favourite thing about it.

[ButterflyBullets]

Ma Belle and Zeitgeist are both better possible endings than Pomp and Circumstances.

[whywontyoulisten]

I just remembered that when I bought the purple version from an Ebay seller, they sent me both a red and a purple copy (in separate parcels!). I asked them about it and they told me to keep both as I'd been "nice" and "honest", so I gave the red to a friend. :lol:/>

[thebeatle]

soonergiant65, on 18 July 2012 - 04:34 PM, said:

I like Zeitgeist. And when watching SP live, I noticed that they performed the songs (Tarantula, That's The Way, United States) with just as much passion as any of their other songs. None of the arguments about Billy's voice and the production of the record hold any weight in my opinion.

The arguments presented are about the album. Explain to me how their live interpretation of a song has anything to do with the way the album was recorded. This is the issue at hand. Not live performances. <3/>

[Pumpkin Patrick]

whywontyoulisten, on 19 July 2012 - 06:12 AM, said:

I burned a copy with the bonus tracks as they were sequenced originally in the different-coloured Zeitgeists, so:

Actually the Silver Zeitgeist is like this.

01. "Doomsday Clock"
02. "7 Shades of Black"
03. "Bleeding the Orchid"
04. "That's the Way (My Love Is)"
05. "Tarantula"
06. "Starz"
07. "United States"
08. "Death From Above"
09. "Bring the Light"
10. "(Come On) Let's Go!"
11. "Neverlost"
12. "Stellar"
13. "Ma Belle"
14. "For God and Country"
15. "Pomp and Circumstances"
-------------------------------------
16. "Zeitgeist" (Not Included)

This ruins 2 of the transitions that really work for the album such as, "US" into "Neverlost", and "(CO)LG" into "FGandC". Both transitions I wish they never tampered with in the re-releases.

[thebeatle]

frednirv632, on 18 July 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:

I have read several people saying this, but I have always thought the opposite. Can you point me to a specific moment where you thing the drum are particularly overwhelming? Neverlost is the one song I could imagine someone having a problem.

The snare in doomsday clock has always stood out to me, sounds like it got the St. Anger treatment( or lack thereof ). Another right off the top of my head is the level of the drums in the mix of starz( Good job replacing that "s" with a "z" Billy, you truly are the incredible wordsmith I have come to love and endear). Along with the wall of billies, its just WAY too high in the mix and rapes my ears.

[ButterflyBullets]

thebeatle, on 19 July 2012 - 06:43 AM, said:

The snare in doomsday clock has always stood out to me, sounds like it got the St. Anger treatment( or lack thereof ). Another right off the top of my head is the level of the drums in the mix of starz( Good job replacing that "s" with a "z" Billy, you truly are the incredible wordsmith I have come to love and endear). Along with the wall of billies, its just WAY too high in the mix and rapes my ears.

I like that bit of Starz. It's especially fun to play drums along with, bashing the shit out of them during that last bit. Because the way they said they mixed it by either having something 'on or off' with no varying volume, how did that part of Starz work? Did he just play slightly quieter?

[whywontyoulisten]

Pumpkin Patrick, on 19 July 2012 - 06:33 AM, said:

Actually the Silver Zeitgeist is like this.

01. "Doomsday Clock"
02. "7 Shades of Black"
03. "Bleeding the Orchid"
04. "That's the Way (My Love Is)"
05. "Tarantula"
06. "Starz"
07. "United States"
08. "Death From Above"
09. "Bring the Light"
10. "(Come On) Let's Go!"
11. "Neverlost"
12. "Stellar"
13. "Ma Belle"
14. "For God and Country"
15. "Pomp and Circumstances"
-------------------------------------
16. "Zeitgeist" (Not Included)

This ruins 2 of the transitions that really work for the album such as, "US" into "Neverlost", and "(CO)LG" into "FGandC". Both transitions I wish they never tampered with in the re-releases.

The silver edition came out quite a while after the other colours, so I just added "Ma Belle" where it appears after "Stellar" on the new version, and left the rest alone. I don't know why they moved "Neverlost"; it doesn't make sense to re-order an established tracklisting.

I consider my combined version the closest to an official 16-track Zeitgeist as you can get, and I'm glad I didn't listen to the original 12-track once I'd gathered all the bonus versions together; it allowed me to learn to appreciate the album with all the tracks in their "correct" places before I'd got too used to the "cut" version. It's all subjective, of course. :happy:/>

[chemicalbehavior]

whywontyoulisten, on 19 July 2012 - 06:12 AM, said:

I burned a copy with the bonus tracks as they were sequenced originally in the different-coloured Zeitgeists, so:

01. "Doomsday Clock"
02. "7 Shades of Black"
03. "Bleeding the Orchid"
04. "That's the Way (My Love Is)"
05. "Tarantula"
06. "Starz"
07. "United States"
08. "Neverlost"
09. "Death From Above" (Urine Best Buy)
10. "Bring the Light"
11. "(Come On) Let's Go!"
12. "Stellar" (Blue iTunes)
13. "Ma Belle" (Silver Best Buy)
14. "For God and Country"
15. "Pomp and Circumstances"
16. "Zeitgeist" - (Purple Target)

I do enjoy it more than the basic album tracklist. Ending on the title track is probably my favourite thing about it.

Lol.

[Pumpkin Patrick]

whywontyoulisten, on 19 July 2012 - 07:06 AM, said:

The silver edition came out quite a while after the other colours, so I just added "Ma Belle" where it appears after "Stellar" on the new version, and left the rest alone. I don't know why they moved "Neverlost"; it doesn't make sense to re-order an established tracklisting.

I consider my combined version the closest to an official 16-track Zeitgeist as you can get, and I'm glad I didn't listen to the original 12-track once I'd gathered all the bonus versions together; it allowed me to learn to appreciate the album with all the tracks in their "correct" places before I'd got too used to the "cut" version. It's all subjective, of course. :happy:/>

I agree with your tracklist except for one thing. "Stellar" and "Ma Belle" should never have been crow-barred into the album. They sound nothing like any of the other tracks and don't really follow the "theme" of Zeigeist, they are too sincere and personal to be part of the Zeitgeist concept. "Come On" is a very superficial song and "For God and Country" is like a satire not really reflecting the voice of Billy. To put "Stellar" (a song about Billy's abuse as a kid) and "Ma Belle" (a beautiful love song) in between those really confuses the albums intended message.

Those 2 songs actually fit the sound and theme of American Gothic a lot closer. For instance play "Rose March" after "Ma Belle", it's a beautiful transition and when the electric guitar of "Rose March" enters, it very reminiscent of "Ma Belle".

For a while I had Zeitgeist end with "Zeitgeist" and started American Gothic with "Stellar" and "Ma Belle", but figured I would just tag those 2 at the end of Zeitgeist so American Gothic could remain unmodified.

I get it's all subjective but I've probably spent more time than I should thinking this list through.
So why won't you listen whywon'tyoulisten? :whattodo:/>

[werideatdusk]

This would be a pretty decent album>>>

1 "Tarantula"
2 "Starz"
3 "The Rose March"
4 "That's the Way"
5 "Bleeding the Orchid"
6 "United States"
7 "Neverlost"
8 "Bring the Light"
9 "Stellar"
10 "Sunkissed"
11 "Pomp and Circumstances"

[thebeatle]

werideatdusk, on 19 July 2012 - 09:45 AM, said:

This would be a pretty decent album>>>

1 "Tarantula"
2 "Starz"
3 "The Rose March"
4 "That's the Way"
5 "Bleeding the Orchid"
6 "United States"
7 "Neverlost"
8 "Bring the Light"
9 "Stellar"
10 "Sunkissed"
11 "Pomp and Circumstances"

Would definitely be an improvement.