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28 September 2012 - 05:43 AMI know there's been speculation about whether Zeitgeist would be reissued, and, if so, whether it would be re-mixed. Billy just tweeted about the subject and seemed to confirm that he intends to remix the album and make sure it gets out on vinyl this time round...
@Billy: what are the chances we'll ever see zeitgeist on vinyl?". VERY GOOD
@Billy: but first remix it for the love of god." THAT's THE PLAN
(I suck at formatting this)
I've been hoping this would happen since soon after Zeit came out. I still say it's a subpar SP album but it's still worthwhile and the thought of a rawer mix playing LOUD on a heavyweight LP does get me drooling a bit.
24 September 2012 - 07:30 AMNot such a killer collection since I never had much funds, but I'm parting with about half of my SP stuff:
5 COMMERCIAL BOOTLEG CDs -
KICK START 96
WE LOVE YOU
MAY WE HAVE A RECORD CONTRACT, PLEASE?
THE "SP" AND "MOON" DEMO TAPES
COMMERCIAL ALBUMS -
MACHINA/the Machines of God
Rotten Apples/Judas 0 (2-Disc Set)
ZWAN - Mary Star of the Sea (CD/DVD edition)
Zeitgeist (CD/DVD edition)
COMMERCIAL SINGLES/EPs - All discs in excellent condition
Disarm ("Heart" cover)
Stand Inside Your Love
American Gothic EP (some damage to case, CD and booklet are EX)
ORIGINAL RARE MAGAZINES - these are in fair-to-good used condition
ROLLING STONE (1993 cover story)
ROLLING STONE (1995 cover story)
SPIN (1993 cover story)
SPIN (1994 "best of the year" with Corgan on cover)
ROLLING STONE (1997? Manson cover with SP article)
CONSCIOUS CHOICE (2005? Billy Corgan cover - Future Embrace era - wide-ranging great interview)
SIAMESE DREAM Music Book - For Piano/Guitar/Voice. Very Good condition.
XL Red Tour shirt with hypnotist. 1993??? "Used" condition. It's a bit faded - see photo.
"Adore" 12" promo flat. In fair-to-good condition. Some wear and damage.
"Zeitgeist" promo mini-flag.
Unfortunately, I can't break the lot up into individual items (I'm selling a lot of other stuff in an effort to lighten my load in life and start the next chapter, and need to simplify the auctions a bit if I'm ever gonna move anything). So it's all or nothing but starting real cheap! Hope it goes to someone on this board.
24 September 2012 - 05:22 AM...who is gonna step up with an alternative to the Monteverse? Is this the return of SIVA?
No offense to Monte... but a less biased alternative is necessary for this community! Takers?
21 September 2012 - 07:23 AMGood interview with Billy just popped up:
A Choice bit, on the 2008 tour:
QuoteWell, look. There is the 1990 version of playing a song somebody doesn’t want to hear, and they put their fingers in their ears, and you think, “Fuck you. Good.” And then there’s the 2008 version, where you’re like, “Oh man, they’re just waiting for me to play … fill in the blank.” That’s a different feeling. I remember opening for the Buzzcocks in Paris. I think it was ’92. Weird room, didn’t sound very good, we didn’t get a sound check. We go out there, and the crowd is pretty old — mid-30s, early-40s. They were not interested in our brand of psychedelia, particularly in Paris. And we played — I’ve got the cassette somewhere — I told the band, “Just jam, fuck it.” Because literally we would stop and would be met by silence or the derisive whistle of European football fans. So we played six songs for 45 minutes, which means we played every song for about nine minutes. Even ones that weren’t supposed to be played that long, we just noodled. But we took great pleasure in being annoying. There’s a certain power in that. When you’re 40 years old, and the person’s standing there going, “Why doesn’t he play ’33′? I love that song. Why has he gotta play this 25-minute Pink Floyd song?” — it’s not the same feeling. On the Zeitgeist tour we’d play “Set The Controls To The Heart Of The Sun,” and we did this bit where we’d break down and we had little birds that we bought — they’re Audubon birds, where they actually have samples of the bird’s call. So we would walk up to the microphone and play our little bird calls, and people would boo the birds. And we’d laugh. We were like, “They’re booing bird calls.” Of course people are shouting, “Play some music!” OK, what are we playing? It’s totally a different experience, because what do you bond around? And then you read the review: “Ugh, Corgan. He wouldn’t play any of his hits.” And then I’d look at the set list and I would have played nine “hit” songs. So then you start thinking, “What’s the magic number?” And then you realize, there isn’t one. Twenty-four hits isn’t enough, because then you didn’t play _____. And then the punk-rock guy kicks in, and then of course I took it deeper and darker, and it got weirder and weirder. I drove Jimmy Chamberlin insane with how dark it all got. And that’s saying something.
Also, he mentions a show where they actually did do what everybody's doing now, played Siamese Dream in order. He says it's a show in Sweden at the end of the 93-94 tour... I think he might be thinking of this one:
10 September 2012 - 08:11 AMhttp://consequenceof...w-billy-corgan/
Buried in this interview is a most striking tidbit:
Q: Well, playing a new album straight through is a pretty strong way of pushing past complacency. Even if your penance is playing “Bullet With Butterfly Wings” for the rest of eternity.
BC: Fatigue is that word that comes to mind. I’m weary. I’m just weary of the process, the engagement, the fights I’ve picked, and the fights people have picked with me. I look at it as the end of a long road. And I’m going to enjoy what’s left of that road, because I’m done with it.
Q: What are you done with?
BC: I see [the Smashing Pumpkins] as having a four to five year window in this guise, and then I want to morph the band, the business, and the intent into completely something else. I want to get off this hamster wheel.
What do you guys think he has in mind here? Some kind of "hootenanny" version of the band where he sits in his global underground HQ issuing directives while fans get onstage and play the songs? I'm sure some kind of bunkers will be involved...