OK... As the story goes, Machina II obviously was supposed to be a sequel to Machina/ The Machines of God. Rumor around the camp fire is, Machina I and Machina II were supossed to be released together as a double album all in one. However, due to the fact the its predecessor album "Adore" didn't sell well. Therefore, Vigin Records refused to recored the second part which full name is of course Machina II/ The Friends and Enemies of Modern Music. Corgan at this point in time had obviously had it with Virgin and decided to release it a a double LP under his own self-proclaimed "Constantinople Rrecords." The LP, was available on I believe September 5, 2000 and unfortunately, only 25 copies were made. Most of these of course, went to Billy's closest friends and reletives. But, the were availble for a short time. Thus, making this the rarest pumpkin album of them all. The album is considered to be worlth over $10,000 making it a holy grail among all of us here and the rest of the fans so if you got it, consider yourself in good freakin shape. Yesterday, I went on ebay and actually manged to find a copy. I'm not sure if its origional, but either way its priceless as far as my sentimental value goes. The album is a must have and it sure brings back that hard rock feeling the Pumpkins origionally packed during the gish years.