So being younger I've only been into this band the past few years and believe it or not I just listened to this album all the way thrugh for the first time. I was under the impression that Zeitgeist was way better than this because I had only listened to Machina in little bits at a time. However, uon listening to this all the way through i declare his to be my second favorite Pumpkins album (just behing Mellon, now ahead of Adore). Pure beauty and art.

Also, Wound and With Every Light are so incredible I just can't even stand it.