Don't let the MOVEMENT stop you from listening to the Pumpkins...I am not into all of that stuff either...but the Pumpkins i will ALWAYS LOVE! I have listened to the Pumpkins for over 15 years now, this past year is the first time i have ever went on any websites and read about them and what their fans say...BOY! I'VE LEARNED A LOT! sometimes i feel some take things WAY to seriously, sort of cultish like...I can see how you can get turned off by it...But if you like the music for that reason alone, than you should continue to listen to it for what you get from it...

like i said, i've listened to the music for over 15 years and after awhile of reading everything people said, and knowing I am not like MOST of these people at all, I had thought to myself a few times "I wish i would have never come on this site", It sort of clouded what i originally got from just listening to the music...But I thought about it...I am here to show MY support for my FAVORITE band...and now feel a part of this website I still don't buy into all the stuff some do and i never will...but it is entertaining and I've made lots of friends here...

Hope you have a GREAT day!